JPRamFan

Sometimes football is not pure black and white …some don’t seem over bothered with Warne and how we play and others are saying they won’t attend next season with Warne in charge 
yet we are currently second which enpowers some arguments/ views  but others see it differently 
regardless of league position I often find myself thinking …wow this is poor and it’s mainly due to lack of control in the games we seem to want to play percentage football 
I remember the Graham Taylor days at Watford where they went from Div4 to Div1 where Taylor employed someone who worked it out the percentages of which ball was likely to end up in a goal and it was quite industrial route one stuff but I guess it was deemed successful as Watford went through the leagues but to me it was awful to watch 
managers who have been seen as succesful  yet parted company with there teams include Pulis at Stoke and Big Sam at a couple of clubs …why ? Mainly because it was crap to watch and the fans complained but some didn’t mind as long as results were ok 
my problem is and it’s no way having a go at others who differ in there opinion but I genuinely find our matches very hard to watch a lot of the time 
The first 20 against Charlton I really enjoyed but those passages are few and far between we seem to want to get involved in a chaotic non controlling type of game where we must get it forward sometimes when it’s not really on 
we don’t seem to ever play patient controlled football and wait for the right openings …and we have some very good players who would thrive at it in this division especially 
L1 is poor , if all 24 teams were of a poor ish standard  someone would still be top of that league and that’s where we’re at 
I really don’t see anyone as a good side and don’t think any of the top 6 would worry Ipswich or Plymouth from last season 
The big problem I see is next season with possibly QPR Reading or Sheff  Weds Rotherham ( L1 specialists !! ) Wrexham Mansfield ( who I think will surprise some ) Charlton and maybe Peterborough I think the league looks more difficult 
if we make the play offs I can see us playing like we did under Rowett in the play offs …and that was the last time I felt like I do now….where I look forward and get nervous and excited before every game …..then during the game think …this is crap …and sometimes we’re winning when I think that …
I will shout and support my team until the end of this season but I’m not enjoying it ….2nd or not! 
 
But fair play if you are enjoying it 
 

Not even Warne's disciples would pick Bradley looking at their line-ups - pretty telling.
Anyroad, I'd just settle for getting some defenders off the park. Flat back 4 please, Korey Smith at RB if Nyambe is injured & let's actually play like a 2nd placed team at home against a relegation contender. Dominate the ball, dominate the territory.
Hourihane, Blackett-Taylor & Waghorn to come on later in the game once their 'Cup Final' energy has subsided somewhat.

Can he even reach the cross bar? 

Assume he means Jack Thompson from the youth team? Extremely talented young 'keeper and will hopefully become a first team regular at some point... not sure this is the right kind of pressure to throw him into straight away though!

I wasn't happy with Wildsmith either the other night, but I don't think Thompson is the solution in goal.😂

I wasn't happy with Wildsmith either the other night, but I don't think Thompson is the solution in goal.😂

Wow.  Have I read that right?  Imagine his next job interview...
"Where do you see yourself in ten years?"
"Well, not at this feckin flea pit, but it'll do for now!"
 
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I wasn't happy with Wildsmith either the other night, but I don't think Thompson is the solution in goal.😂

So we're plonking Bradley in their penalty area and hoping the ref doesn't notice we've got 12 players on the pitch?

I wonder how many supporters would have selected that back four last night based on what we have seen this season with who was available? 
                  For me the strongest and balanced back four available would have been Nyambe Nelson Cashin Sibley and yes Sibley could be a potential weak link it hasn’t really transpired that way when he has played and not to mention he can cross a ball and shoot. 

Last night unfortunately exposed all of Paul Warne's flaws as a manager. Even before Wildsmith's kamikaze moment, the lack of ball retention after going 1-0 up was appalling. Sunday morning rushing to get the ball forward which caused so many unforced errors. What has the manager got against keeping the ball for 10-15 minutes? I know it's dull and boring, we have got to be smarter in certain games. Charlton were a terrible team and we somehow gifted them a win.
Derby had most of the control in the first half. We got the goal, beautiful header by Cashin and another assist for NML. Came out in the 2nd half and kept giving the ball away by forcing it forward. Charlton's press was very aggressive in the 2nd half. Instead of playing it around Charlton and exposing them, we kept pumping the ball forward. In a game where patience and calm was required, we absolutely fell apart.
Making our lives more difficult sums up this season. Even though we've been accumulating a really healthy points total, it has been a proper slog to get points on the board. I hope this is just a small blip and we will get back to form on Saturday! 

It feels to me that the momentum we had has been sacrificed all for keeping Sonney Bradley at CH in a starting position. It took a new level last night when our best player /prospect was played at left-back.
The style of football is Sunday Morning Burton & District FA circa 1989 (picture of Terry Whyman pops into my mind’s eye) - smash the ball forward/wide quickly and then “lump it” into the box. 
 
I am even considering not renewing my season ticket after over 10 consecutive seasons, it’s that dire. 

Last night was the footballing equivalent of that Willy Wonka experience in the news right now.

Horrific performance from start to finish. Look incapable of a five yard pass. No idea how to create a chance from open play. Wildsmith has lost his mind. Bradley is a joke of a player. Even NML completely missing. Whatever the question is, Waghorn is never the answer. Deserved absolutely nothing from that game. Charlton were fitter, stronger, more athletic, sharper and more positive. Dont know where we go from that. 

Awful result. Awful performance. Awful starting line up.
This result has been coming for a while. We simply do not create enough chamces/shots on target & the appalling ball retention is to blame. I'm gobsmacked some folk thought we played well first half...we really didn't. It was a series of aimless hoofs & misplaced passes, Charlton played much the better stuff. We look to have regressed technically & its a concern.
Still can't believe how few attack minded players we started with tonight. The blunt reality is Kane Wilson isn't very effective in the final 3rd so when it was apparent Mendez-Laing was having a quiet game, our attacking threat was reduced to very little. We are 2nd in the table & at home..we should be looking to dominate a team 5th from bottom with their poor form. What happened to this so called 'gung ho' Warne style? Looks like reheated Billy Davies 'snatch & hold on for dear life' to me. Massive improvement needed from here.

If we end up in the playoffs I have absolutely no faith in our ability to get through them.
Mentality, weak. Tactical nouse, weak. 

That was utter garbage yet again. It’s totally unwatchable at the moment and it stems from the ludicrous tactics, presuming we have any.
The price of mine and the lad’s season tickets has gone up by 40% and with nights like this, following many more like them, you do begin to wonder if it’s worthwhile.
If Mendez-Laing doesn’t create anything then that’s pretty much that isn’t it. I thought Cashin and Nyambe came out with credit tonight but the rest were ‘meh’ at best and a few were pretty disgraceful. The amount of 50/50 challenges bottled was quite noticeable. 
This team is neither good enough for the top two, nor does it have the bottle for the fight of the play offs. I hope I’m wrong, I really do. The manager has come out and said we haven’t played well all season. I agree with him so who is to blame for that then?
What a disappointing week and with Port Vale, who we will no doubt be told are an excellent team with great players for this league, to come it could get even worse if we approach the game with this ridiculous negative and defensive mindset from the start. 
 
COYR
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Dire yet again. 
Get Warne gone and bring someone in to look at getting us promoted next year, playing actual football in the process.
Hilariously depressing to hear Washington is potentially out until the end of the season with a knee issue. An issue he’d had operated on in the summer, and we still chose to sign him knowing our budgets were limited. 
Who in their right mind would sign a 31 year old striker who has just had a knee op. I’m not sure what’s more amateur, Warnes tactics or his transfer decisions. 

Awful performance, awful football and an awful manager. Fuming after that.

Not gonna lie. Derby don’t half make me miserable 🤦🏻‍♂️

Really hope Gayle opens his account. A confident Gayle could make all the difference to our season.

I don’t mind the lineup with the injuries we’ve got, interested to see how Smith does with more mobility alongside him, I think he’s a bit underrated in terms of his passing. Having Adams alongside him might help us build from deep like the pass he played for NML to set up Sibley’s winner against Stevenage.
Options to change it from the bench too with Sibley, Barkhuizen, CBT and Waghorn (who I feel will have a good part to play in the run in) 

He's getting on a bit granted, but scoring since 1884?