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-21 points, 5 transfer windows under embargo, £100k fine, administration, likely relegation. That’s all for Mel’s transgressions, and we’ve largely accepted that. The threat of liquidation due to spurious legal claims is totally separate to that. We can be rightly angered at Mel, and we are, for all the above, and STILL be angry with MFC, WW, and through complicity, the EFL, for the continued vendetta, and it IS a vendetta against the club.
Our punishment, is unprecedented, and they’re still NOT happy. If that’s not vindictive and spiteful I don’t know what is. Pushing a fellow club into oblivion because you have a gripe at someone who’s no longer anywhere near the club. This is why children shouldn’t be allowed to own clubs. In fact I’m being unfair there, not even most children would behave in the way that pube-head and the ambulance chaser are. When an independent regulator is finally installed, the first thing they should do is kick this pair out of the game entirely. Football would be far better off without either of them.

Agree with this. It’s inevitable, and the final insult. 

The second we’re gone they’ll decide that claims of this nature can’t be construed as football debts, and that clubs suing other clubs outside of the EFL processes will be punished by removing those clubs’ golden share.
Guaranteed.
Then they’ll cry crocodile tears over not being able to do this in time to save Derby. In fact they’ll use us as the poster child for why those changes are necessary. Even when we’re dead they’ll still be humping us.

Front and centre for all these interviews;
1. EFL and MFC collusion
2. Liquidation completely on Steve Gibson

-21 points, 5 transfer windows under embargo, £100k fine, administration, likely relegation. That’s all for Mel’s transgressions, and we’ve largely accepted that. The threat of liquidation due to spurious legal claims is totally separate to that. We can be rightly angered at Mel, and we are, for all the above, and STILL be angry with MFC, WW, and through complicity, the EFL, for the continued vendetta, and it IS a vendetta against the club.
Our punishment, is unprecedented, and they’re still NOT happy. If that’s not vindictive and spiteful I don’t know what is. Pushing a fellow club into oblivion because you have a gripe at someone who’s no longer anywhere near the club. This is why children shouldn’t be allowed to own clubs. In fact I’m being unfair there, not even most children would behave in the way that pube-head and the ambulance chaser are. When an independent regulator is finally installed, the first thing they should do is kick this pair out of the game entirely. Football would be far better off without either of them.

Front and centre for all these interviews;
1. EFL and MFC collusion
2. Liquidation completely on Steve Gibson

-21 points, 5 transfer windows under embargo, £100k fine, administration, likely relegation. That’s all for Mel’s transgressions, and we’ve largely accepted that. The threat of liquidation due to spurious legal claims is totally separate to that. We can be rightly angered at Mel, and we are, for all the above, and STILL be angry with MFC, WW, and through complicity, the EFL, for the continued vendetta, and it IS a vendetta against the club.
Our punishment, is unprecedented, and they’re still NOT happy. If that’s not vindictive and spiteful I don’t know what is. Pushing a fellow club into oblivion because you have a gripe at someone who’s no longer anywhere near the club. This is why children shouldn’t be allowed to own clubs. In fact I’m being unfair there, not even most children would behave in the way that pube-head and the ambulance chaser are. When an independent regulator is finally installed, the first thing they should do is kick this pair out of the game entirely. Football would be far better off without either of them.

Almost certainly less than he thinks he does.

Agree with this. It’s inevitable, and the final insult. 

The second we’re gone they’ll decide that claims of this nature can’t be construed as football debts, and that clubs suing other clubs outside of the EFL processes will be punished by removing those clubs’ golden share.
Guaranteed.
Then they’ll cry crocodile tears over not being able to do this in time to save Derby. In fact they’ll use us as the poster child for why those changes are necessary. Even when we’re dead they’ll still be humping us.

Almost certainly less than he thinks he does.

Agree with this. It’s inevitable, and the final insult. 

The second we’re gone they’ll decide that claims of this nature can’t be construed as football debts, and that clubs suing other clubs outside of the EFL processes will be punished by removing those clubs’ golden share.
Guaranteed.
Then they’ll cry crocodile tears over not being able to do this in time to save Derby. In fact they’ll use us as the poster child for why those changes are necessary. Even when we’re dead they’ll still be humping us.

Every fans forum the issue of FFP came up. Every time we were told (by Mel and or Pearce) that we were narrowly on the right side of the line. In lieu of the accounts not being there to be scrutinised I’m not sure what more anyone could do to call them out as BSing.
There were certain red flags yes, like “Why are we having to sell the stadium?!” But the EFL said that was ok so it just looked like a smart way of creating more breathing space on the P&L.
Again, this comes down to the EFL and it’s rules. It should not be possible to get away with this for years on end. If the processes and procedures were in place then it would never have gotten this far, or this bad.

Every fans forum the issue of FFP came up. Every time we were told (by Mel and or Pearce) that we were narrowly on the right side of the line. In lieu of the accounts not being there to be scrutinised I’m not sure what more anyone could do to call them out as BSing.
There were certain red flags yes, like “Why are we having to sell the stadium?!” But the EFL said that was ok so it just looked like a smart way of creating more breathing space on the P&L.
Again, this comes down to the EFL and it’s rules. It should not be possible to get away with this for years on end. If the processes and procedures were in place then it would never have gotten this far, or this bad.

Almost certainly less than he thinks he does.

-21 points, 5 transfer windows under embargo, £100k fine, administration, likely relegation. That’s all for Mel’s transgressions, and we’ve largely accepted that. The threat of liquidation due to spurious legal claims is totally separate to that. We can be rightly angered at Mel, and we are, for all the above, and STILL be angry with MFC, WW, and through complicity, the EFL, for the continued vendetta, and it IS a vendetta against the club.
Our punishment, is unprecedented, and they’re still NOT happy. If that’s not vindictive and spiteful I don’t know what is. Pushing a fellow club into oblivion because you have a gripe at someone who’s no longer anywhere near the club. This is why children shouldn’t be allowed to own clubs. In fact I’m being unfair there, not even most children would behave in the way that pube-head and the ambulance chaser are. When an independent regulator is finally installed, the first thing they should do is kick this pair out of the game entirely. Football would be far better off without either of them.

This is the biggest danger. It seems that Boro, the EFL, and likely Wycombe think the Admins are engaging in brinksmanship and will cave at the eleventh hour to save the club. That’s a hugely dangerous assumption. If they’re wrong, we’re finished, and it will lay squarely on the three of them.
A couple of days ago it was said that they were hating being perceived as the bad guys in this. That’s the angle to intensify on, make sure everyone knows who’s fault it’s going to be if we go under. Mel got us into this mess, but we’ve been punished for his transgressions already, the club being liquidated will entirely be the fault of Boro, of Wycombe, and through complicit collusion, the EFL.

Agree with the point above. How can clubs be expected to be 100% compliant, 100% of the time when even the EFL aren’t entirely clear on their own rules, and can interpret them in numerous ways depending on which way the wind is blowing?
It would also help, immensely, if their rules complied with/were aligned to, the latest legislation.

-21 points, 5 transfer windows under embargo, £100k fine, administration, likely relegation. That’s all for Mel’s transgressions, and we’ve largely accepted that. The threat of liquidation due to spurious legal claims is totally separate to that. We can be rightly angered at Mel, and we are, for all the above, and STILL be angry with MFC, WW, and through complicity, the EFL, for the continued vendetta, and it IS a vendetta against the club.
Our punishment, is unprecedented, and they’re still NOT happy. If that’s not vindictive and spiteful I don’t know what is. Pushing a fellow club into oblivion because you have a gripe at someone who’s no longer anywhere near the club. This is why children shouldn’t be allowed to own clubs. In fact I’m being unfair there, not even most children would behave in the way that pube-head and the ambulance chaser are. When an independent regulator is finally installed, the first thing they should do is kick this pair out of the game entirely. Football would be far better off without either of them.

This is the biggest danger. It seems that Boro, the EFL, and likely Wycombe think the Admins are engaging in brinksmanship and will cave at the eleventh hour to save the club. That’s a hugely dangerous assumption. If they’re wrong, we’re finished, and it will lay squarely on the three of them.
A couple of days ago it was said that they were hating being perceived as the bad guys in this. That’s the angle to intensify on, make sure everyone knows who’s fault it’s going to be if we go under. Mel got us into this mess, but we’ve been punished for his transgressions already, the club being liquidated will entirely be the fault of Boro, of Wycombe, and through complicit collusion, the EFL.

This is the biggest danger. It seems that Boro, the EFL, and likely Wycombe think the Admins are engaging in brinksmanship and will cave at the eleventh hour to save the club. That’s a hugely dangerous assumption. If they’re wrong, we’re finished, and it will lay squarely on the three of them.
A couple of days ago it was said that they were hating being perceived as the bad guys in this. That’s the angle to intensify on, make sure everyone knows who’s fault it’s going to be if we go under. Mel got us into this mess, but we’ve been punished for his transgressions already, the club being liquidated will entirely be the fault of Boro, of Wycombe, and through complicit collusion, the EFL.

This is the biggest danger. It seems that Boro, the EFL, and likely Wycombe think the Admins are engaging in brinksmanship and will cave at the eleventh hour to save the club. That’s a hugely dangerous assumption. If they’re wrong, we’re finished, and it will lay squarely on the three of them.
A couple of days ago it was said that they were hating being perceived as the bad guys in this. That’s the angle to intensify on, make sure everyone knows who’s fault it’s going to be if we go under. Mel got us into this mess, but we’ve been punished for his transgressions already, the club being liquidated will entirely be the fault of Boro, of Wycombe, and through complicit collusion, the EFL.

Happy to compromise. Middlesbrough can drop their claim and we won’t humiliate them in court. Win-win.

At least we’ve unearthed one of Pube-head’s alt accounts…

When's Couhig going to get over this and move onto suing The Simpsons for misappropriating his likeness?

EFLs rules not updated to reflect recent changes to insolvency legislation. Consequently HMRC stands to lose out on millions because either MFC win and get ranked ahead of them in the payout list, or MFC don’t get what they want and we’re liquidated and HMRC get duck all.
If I were HMRC I’d be making noises about investigations into MFC and Pube-heads tax affairs . And then further investigations until they find something.

The reason is that time wise they have us over a barrel. If we weren’t in admin, or if we had the time to take this down the arbitration route then they wouldn’t even bother because we all know they can’t prove their case, there is simply no argument to counter.
Circumstances being what they are tho, they make the claim on the basis that the admins will have to try and resolve the matter, via some sort of settlement, before we can leave administration/prove funds.
Its opportunistic greed at its worst.