therams69

Owen,
For the record its been a long 12 years since I brought Jon and the Safe Standing Roadshow to the Navigation Pub who presented the safe standing rail seats so yep its been a very long and overdue campaign to get to this stage.
Fast forward and we are not quite there with it as we have barriers, granted its a start but it's not rail seats like what Wolves / Celtic have or pretty much every European Club with it. I understand the cost implications though and of course the cheaper option to pass the required checks was needed.
What more do I want the club to do? Interesting question and something I will be raising at the next SCG meeting. Personally feel that this was something that could and should have been raised within the group for feedback and opinion to how best to assist and portray the message. This is what the club wanted so interesting to note it was ignored this time around.
I wasn't personally affected and my annoyance was more at the other fans who felt it and received quite a few messages that night. Pretty much every supporter in there is a long standing season ticket holder in there from Day 1 and you could clearly see that they were annoyed. It was an overkill and excessive and from speaking to stewards prior to the game it was clear that the message to them was nothing but pressure to get it right. Which begs the question, get what right exactly? Nothing has changed but a rail in front of the same allocated seat that a fan has had for many years. No one had moved seats and no message was ever out there that because there is now a rail its a free for all. Granted we have a problem with migration but every club has that and checks were in place in a specific area over the past few games but this was the whole stand.
I understand that certain checks have to be made for a certificate to be issued but I also have the opinion that these decisions are made without a voice of a football fan who then experiences it. I would love to understand how long these checks will be in place for and how long other clubs with rail seats had the checks in place - i.e Liverpool we had no checks in the Cup. Cardiff in the league we had no checks.
I guess my issue is with the SCGA as it always has been now for years. Decisions made upstairs if you like. A bit like non slip foil only being used at Pride Park but normal foil is okay 30 miles down the road at the City Ground. Or a large flag allowed in one ground but not another etc etc
I am not digging at your communication, you know I would never do that. I am digging at the reasonings and decisions made prior to your communications.

Absolutely important! 😉
End of the day the SCG is there to make things better for us all. Its a liaison between the club and fanbase as much as possible. Not everyone is represented but as much as possible. 

Once prior to security and once when at the gate. It used to be fairly common to also have it 'checked' when boarding the plane, but it seems to rarely happen to me nowadays (probably because I have bags in one arm and a toddler in the other.

Depends if you get lost in the one way system! 😝

Depends if you get lost in the one way system! 😝

That thinks it’s 30 miles from Pride Park to the Sh**y ground 😂

Not everyone has the time to watch a video.. There was no separate message out there..
The checks were excessive. Bottom of the stand and then walk up the stairs for another check and another at the top if you were at back.
Communication poor, again.

Huge overkill.
I am very disappointed I or fellow SCG members were not consulted on this. For a start this is exactly what the SCG is setup for. If it was the case i would have given my input and posted on the socials (including here) to let everyone know what the plan was whether or not i agreed with it.
Pretty much an own goal but we learn I guess.

Not everyone has the time to watch a video.. There was no separate message out there..
The checks were excessive. Bottom of the stand and then walk up the stairs for another check and another at the top if you were at back.
Communication poor, again.

Not everyone has the time to watch a video.. There was no separate message out there..
The checks were excessive. Bottom of the stand and then walk up the stairs for another check and another at the top if you were at back.
Communication poor, again.

Thought i would add my 2 pence in and a little bit of a backdrop particularly for those new members.. Ironically my Facebook memories remind me that 12 years ago we organised for Jon Darch from the safe standing roadshow to come down to the Portland Hotel to showcase 'rail seats'. It was a very well attended night including many local councillors and MP's.
Fast forward some 10 years plus and we finally have safe standing at Pride Park. Please remember that Derby County were the 2nd English club behind Aston Villa to go public on this at a time when it was a huge battle and clubs would just not publically do this. 
I went over to Hannover a year or so later and we did a promo video on the rail seats. This is one of the videos - featured Wayne who is a top guy and also well known for being the Peterborough Rabbit mascot. Naturally I took the big flag and got a photo with it in the AWD Arena. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apX5V1IJCW4
Nigel Clough was fantastic in it all. He was prepared to go on video and back the campaign. This was at the time of the Hillsborough disaster still being rather fresh as well with the campaign for further inquires etc. He was the most high profile person in football to go public. Top man.
Sam Rush and Co continued to back the campaign as did Mel Morris although his motives were very much how many more can I get in the stadium for his pop concerts lol! Yes we all remember that stadium video showcase!
So finally we will see safe standing at Derby. Not the rail seats that were campaigned for but rails. Its a start I guess and of course the cheaper option which also ticks many of the health and safety boxes.
Its been a very long 12 years with governments battles along the way. Should not have taken this long thats for sure. Guess we will see what the future holds...... Cough Rail Seats! 
 

Thought i would add my 2 pence in and a little bit of a backdrop particularly for those new members.. Ironically my Facebook memories remind me that 12 years ago we organised for Jon Darch from the safe standing roadshow to come down to the Portland Hotel to showcase 'rail seats'. It was a very well attended night including many local councillors and MP's.
Fast forward some 10 years plus and we finally have safe standing at Pride Park. Please remember that Derby County were the 2nd English club behind Aston Villa to go public on this at a time when it was a huge battle and clubs would just not publically do this. 
I went over to Hannover a year or so later and we did a promo video on the rail seats. This is one of the videos - featured Wayne who is a top guy and also well known for being the Peterborough Rabbit mascot. Naturally I took the big flag and got a photo with it in the AWD Arena. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apX5V1IJCW4
Nigel Clough was fantastic in it all. He was prepared to go on video and back the campaign. This was at the time of the Hillsborough disaster still being rather fresh as well with the campaign for further inquires etc. He was the most high profile person in football to go public. Top man.
Sam Rush and Co continued to back the campaign as did Mel Morris although his motives were very much how many more can I get in the stadium for his pop concerts lol! Yes we all remember that stadium video showcase!
So finally we will see safe standing at Derby. Not the rail seats that were campaigned for but rails. Its a start I guess and of course the cheaper option which also ticks many of the health and safety boxes.
Its been a very long 12 years with governments battles along the way. Should not have taken this long thats for sure. Guess we will see what the future holds...... Cough Rail Seats! 
 

Thought i would add my 2 pence in and a little bit of a backdrop particularly for those new members.. Ironically my Facebook memories remind me that 12 years ago we organised for Jon Darch from the safe standing roadshow to come down to the Portland Hotel to showcase 'rail seats'. It was a very well attended night including many local councillors and MP's.
Fast forward some 10 years plus and we finally have safe standing at Pride Park. Please remember that Derby County were the 2nd English club behind Aston Villa to go public on this at a time when it was a huge battle and clubs would just not publically do this. 
I went over to Hannover a year or so later and we did a promo video on the rail seats. This is one of the videos - featured Wayne who is a top guy and also well known for being the Peterborough Rabbit mascot. Naturally I took the big flag and got a photo with it in the AWD Arena. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apX5V1IJCW4
Nigel Clough was fantastic in it all. He was prepared to go on video and back the campaign. This was at the time of the Hillsborough disaster still being rather fresh as well with the campaign for further inquires etc. He was the most high profile person in football to go public. Top man.
Sam Rush and Co continued to back the campaign as did Mel Morris although his motives were very much how many more can I get in the stadium for his pop concerts lol! Yes we all remember that stadium video showcase!
So finally we will see safe standing at Derby. Not the rail seats that were campaigned for but rails. Its a start I guess and of course the cheaper option which also ticks many of the health and safety boxes.
Its been a very long 12 years with governments battles along the way. Should not have taken this long thats for sure. Guess we will see what the future holds...... Cough Rail Seats! 
 

Thought i would add my 2 pence in and a little bit of a backdrop particularly for those new members.. Ironically my Facebook memories remind me that 12 years ago we organised for Jon Darch from the safe standing roadshow to come down to the Portland Hotel to showcase 'rail seats'. It was a very well attended night including many local councillors and MP's.
Fast forward some 10 years plus and we finally have safe standing at Pride Park. Please remember that Derby County were the 2nd English club behind Aston Villa to go public on this at a time when it was a huge battle and clubs would just not publically do this. 
I went over to Hannover a year or so later and we did a promo video on the rail seats. This is one of the videos - featured Wayne who is a top guy and also well known for being the Peterborough Rabbit mascot. Naturally I took the big flag and got a photo with it in the AWD Arena. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apX5V1IJCW4
Nigel Clough was fantastic in it all. He was prepared to go on video and back the campaign. This was at the time of the Hillsborough disaster still being rather fresh as well with the campaign for further inquires etc. He was the most high profile person in football to go public. Top man.
Sam Rush and Co continued to back the campaign as did Mel Morris although his motives were very much how many more can I get in the stadium for his pop concerts lol! Yes we all remember that stadium video showcase!
So finally we will see safe standing at Derby. Not the rail seats that were campaigned for but rails. Its a start I guess and of course the cheaper option which also ticks many of the health and safety boxes.
Its been a very long 12 years with governments battles along the way. Should not have taken this long thats for sure. Guess we will see what the future holds...... Cough Rail Seats! 
 

I read garbage like this and seriously wonder if the poster is on a wind up or drugs.

A comparison of the League Tables as at 29 November 2022 & 2023 makes interesting reading:
2022                  PLD   W    D   L      F       A         GD        P
Plymouth           19      13   4   2      39    22        17         43
Ipswich              19      12   5   2      38     19        19         41
Sheff W              19      12   4  3       35    16        19         40
Peterb                19      10   1   8       34    23       11          31
Bolton                 18       9   4   5       21    15         6          31
Barnsley             18       9    3   6       23   15         8          30
Portsmouth        17       7    8   2       26   18         8          29
Derby                 18       8    5   5       23   16         7          29
 
2023                  PLD   W    D   L      F       A         GD        P
Bolton               18      12   3    3     37     18        19         39
Portsmouth      18      11   6    1      29     16        13         39
Oxford              18      11   3    4     31      18        13         36
Stevenage        20     10  6    4     29      19        10         36
Peterb               19     10  5    4     37      20        17         35
Derby                18     10  3    5     31       16        15         33 
Barnsley            18      9  4    5     34      20        14         31
Blackpool          20     8   6    6    33       25         5         30
 
Admittedly, you can read anything into stats to back up your own position but with a fairly positive (but realistic) outlook, I can see some positives. At this stage last year we were 11 and 13 points behind the top two, this year currently only 6 points. Last year, I think everyone would agree, Ipswich and Plymouth were the outstanding teams throughout the year, rightly gaining automatic promotion.
The consensus of opinion is that Derby haven't played as well as they might at present but are still 4 points better off than last year. Surprising, having lost our talisman McGoldrick, we have scored 8 more goals than at this stage last year, conceding the same as last year (16). Both Bolton & Barnsley have also scored a lot more goals too, helped by two huge wins.
My conclusions: things are no where near as bad as is being made out. Hopefully there will be a lot more goals to come together with an uplift in "exciting" performances. Hopefully we can keep hold of the players we want to retain in January and bring in a couple who can really improve the team, to the next level.
My positive spin - I know the doubters will use the stats to put a different view on things. 

This is me. Taken at the Barnsley match in Daniel’s shirt. 

RIP B4 .. You were a top lad on the terrace. Thoughts with all his family and friends.

RIP B4 .. You were a top lad on the terrace. Thoughts with all his family and friends.

I have some very sad news this evening.  Daniel (B4) died earlier this week. He was just 38.
As you know, he has been battling numerous health conditions for a long time, but always remained cheerful  and was the most loyal supporter of his beloved Rams, home and away.
He was at the match at Crewe and gave his full support as always. 
Daniel leaves behind a grieving dad, mum and sister. Our thoughts go out to them and we only hope they get a little comfort from knowing how well loved Daniel is by all who know him. 
Here are a couple of photos that his dad agreed could be shared. I'm sure many of you have others, as Daniel loved a selfie at the game.
David is hoping to arrange a more fitting tribute in time, but for now please raise a glass in his memory and a good Derby win today. I am sure that's what Daniel would have been doing tonight.
 

Yeah remember the s**t football under Billy as well. One nil wins here and there. Didn't see any complaints then mind but guess its all about the tika taka football nowadays (FIFA mode right?!) 
The league table? For christ sake we are 9th. Win our game in hand and we are 2 points off the play offs and 5 points from second.
 

https://clowes.co.uk/2022/07/01/breaking-news-clowes-developments-takeover-derby-county-football-club/
July last year, it was announced that David Clowes had bought Derby County. Saving the club from disappearing into the ever-growing abyss of crushed football clubs.
I cried that day. I didn't think it was bothering me that much. As an adult in his mid-40s, I found myself resenting the amount of money I've "squandered" following Derby County around the country. I can probably count all the enjoyable moments as an adult on my fingers and toes, but there are plenty of bleak and miserable memories, from watching Jim Smith's magic-touch fade, Colin Todd's reputation dwindle, John Gregory's over-confidence implode, Phil Brown trying to reinvent the wheel, Paul Jewell signing everyone he could, to Nigel Clough being too negative to try and win. That's before Uncle Mel came along with his mad rollercoaster.
A few years ago I decided to squander my money on playing Golf badly instead of football, beer, gambling and a curry every Saturday, that made me think I was detached from it all, that I'd cut the ties that only a few years earlier had me desperately scrambling for away tickets for 0-0 draws at places like Preston on a Boxing Day!
I'd consider myself an armchair radio/TV fan nowadays, and my stress level and general health has been much better. 
I no longer live in Derby/Derbyshire, which has left me further detached from the club and fellow Rams fans. But from this forum over the last few days, I'm feeling some real rage towards Warne, and maybe even Clowes. It's worse that any time on this forum. Even Pearson had more support! 
Am I the only one who, whilst disenchanted with performances, and perhaps football in general, doesn't really feel Warne needs sacking?
Or am I still just glad we have a club to talk about?
I think some of the people so enraged by Warne could do with taking a step back and a deep breath.
AS for Clowes, he jumped into Shark-infested waters to drag us back onto the muddy bank, shame on anyone critical of a man who had no ambition to own DCFC, only duty.
Disgruntled fans could do with finding a way to contribute to the growth of the club, not the demise.

I genuinely love the guy. Offers us something completely different with his movement.
Makes it all the more sillier why some fans felt the need to cheer when he got subbed off at Stevenage despite scoring that goal against Exeter.
A very good workhorse signing.
 

I genuinely love the guy. Offers us something completely different with his movement.
Makes it all the more sillier why some fans felt the need to cheer when he got subbed off at Stevenage despite scoring that goal against Exeter.
A very good workhorse signing.
 

Bumped into Dave last night .. Absolutely not the impression I got.