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I'd love all these players to stay but lets face it, the reality is this :
Contracts will end on 30 June (I think) and players will go on holiday after our last game in May so will stop training together Whilst they are away they will rely on their agents to make sure that they have a salary from 1st July & if Derby haven't been taken over they will understandably worry. Plus their agents won't care about Derby, they'll have a chance of a cut of a signing on fee elsewhere Next season starts incredibly early due to the World Cup - 30 July - so players will need to be training again by the end of June Remember when Rooney was told by the administrators that no players will be leaving in January - & then several left
In the meantime, the hope is that CK will convince them that the takeover will definitely happen but if it was you and you were offered a 3 year contract elsewhere starting 1 July or you could wait on the off chance that Derby can give you a contract, for a yet to be determined salary, what would you do ?
This takeover needs to happen fast. Each week that passes, even each day that passes, increases the risk that a player will leave

I'd love all these players to stay but lets face it, the reality is this :
Contracts will end on 30 June (I think) and players will go on holiday after our last game in May so will stop training together Whilst they are away they will rely on their agents to make sure that they have a salary from 1st July & if Derby haven't been taken over they will understandably worry. Plus their agents won't care about Derby, they'll have a chance of a cut of a signing on fee elsewhere Next season starts incredibly early due to the World Cup - 30 July - so players will need to be training again by the end of June Remember when Rooney was told by the administrators that no players will be leaving in January - & then several left
In the meantime, the hope is that CK will convince them that the takeover will definitely happen but if it was you and you were offered a 3 year contract elsewhere starting 1 July or you could wait on the off chance that Derby can give you a contract, for a yet to be determined salary, what would you do ?
This takeover needs to happen fast. Each week that passes, even each day that passes, increases the risk that a player will leave

I seem to remember reading that the EFL had used all our held back live Sky money to pay directly towards the transfer fee instalments that became due in January - hence why it disappeared - plus didn't Arsenal defer the instalment on Bielik ?
I know we owe money on players, as we pay in instalments, but have we received all instalments for Bogle & Lowe from Sheff Utd ?

Will that bring the return of someone weeing in your pocket because it's too difficult to leave a packed terrace to get to the toilets ?
And yes younger fans, believe it or not that did used to happen !! or they would use a rolled up programme for direction

& this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBB1BudP3Iw&t=1545s
& my YouTube channel - mainly match highlights over many years
https://www.youtube.com/user/melinos55/playlists
 

Will that bring the return of someone weeing in your pocket because it's too difficult to leave a packed terrace to get to the toilets ?
And yes younger fans, believe it or not that did used to happen !! or they would use a rolled up programme for direction

I hope Rotherham get promoted, When visiting Mill moor at HT I asked for a Pie, Pie was put in a bag money exchanged and off back to my seat, Hand in the bag, Pie in hand and bite into it...WTF is this I said to my mate, Snot running down my chin, It was a god damn hot pork pie, Straight back to the kiosk and told him he'd given me a hot pork pie, Yes he said that's how we like them up here.
So I had an Aztec Bar instead ?

I think there may be similarities between what we face next season and what we faced in our 1st season under Arthur Cox
There were some 'stop gap' signings to plug holes who played a part but not in the long term - like Eric Steele, Charlie Palmer, Floyd Streete & then there were gradual signings that proved to be inspirational - Rob Hindmarch, Geraint Williams, Gary Micklewhite, John Gregory etc.
Those player signings were funded by having to sell an asset - in this case Kevin Wilson - which is what we may have to do this summer
One difference then is that there wasn't a transfer window, you could sign players at any time
Oh, & we had already had quite a successful little striker - Bobby Davison !! Please find another one of them

I think there may be similarities between what we face next season and what we faced in our 1st season under Arthur Cox
There were some 'stop gap' signings to plug holes who played a part but not in the long term - like Eric Steele, Charlie Palmer, Floyd Streete & then there were gradual signings that proved to be inspirational - Rob Hindmarch, Geraint Williams, Gary Micklewhite, John Gregory etc.
Those player signings were funded by having to sell an asset - in this case Kevin Wilson - which is what we may have to do this summer
One difference then is that there wasn't a transfer window, you could sign players at any time
Oh, & we had already had quite a successful little striker - Bobby Davison !! Please find another one of them

I think there may be similarities between what we face next season and what we faced in our 1st season under Arthur Cox
There were some 'stop gap' signings to plug holes who played a part but not in the long term - like Eric Steele, Charlie Palmer, Floyd Streete & then there were gradual signings that proved to be inspirational - Rob Hindmarch, Geraint Williams, Gary Micklewhite, John Gregory etc.
Those player signings were funded by having to sell an asset - in this case Kevin Wilson - which is what we may have to do this summer
One difference then is that there wasn't a transfer window, you could sign players at any time
Oh, & we had already had quite a successful little striker - Bobby Davison !! Please find another one of them

I've looked it up. Apparently we sold Wilson to Ipswich for £150k in Jan 1985 and spent it on Gary Micklewhite and Trevor Christie.
John Gregory joined in the next season

I think there may be similarities between what we face next season and what we faced in our 1st season under Arthur Cox
There were some 'stop gap' signings to plug holes who played a part but not in the long term - like Eric Steele, Charlie Palmer, Floyd Streete & then there were gradual signings that proved to be inspirational - Rob Hindmarch, Geraint Williams, Gary Micklewhite, John Gregory etc.
Those player signings were funded by having to sell an asset - in this case Kevin Wilson - which is what we may have to do this summer
One difference then is that there wasn't a transfer window, you could sign players at any time
Oh, & we had already had quite a successful little striker - Bobby Davison !! Please find another one of them

& this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBB1BudP3Iw&t=1545s
& my YouTube channel - mainly match highlights over many years
https://www.youtube.com/user/melinos55/playlists
 

You’re going to be gutted this morning, and rightly so.
But it ain’t all bad.
When we dropped out of the old 2nd division into the 3rd in 1984 things were in many ways, worse.
We didn’t (quite) have the financial issues, but we had a horrible team and the entire season was utterly depressing and devoid of hope in a way this season hasn’t been.
My personal highlight of an utterly depressing season was meeting Dave Watson in a Little Chef on the A1 after we spanked Cambridge away 3-0 in the FA Cup. That was pretty much it for ducks sake.
AND we had not just relegation, but the ignominy of losing to Plymouth in the FA Cup quarter-final to contend with after we had dragged them back to the BBG.
We all thought that we’d bounce right back when we did get relegated and the arrival of Arthur Cox just emboldened that belief.
An opening day away loss to Bournemouth, when Bournemouth then were more like the equivalent of Exeter now, didn’t dissuade us.
Of course, we didn’t bounce back and ended up outside the top 6.
But we had some BRILLIANT away days that season, Hull, Lincoln, and the last game of the season at Newport spring to mind.
It was a whole lot more fun than the previous season because we were, for the most part, competing and you could see what Arthur was trying to do.
There’s something fun about going to smaller clubs and taking the place over. Those of you who travel to away games know that the camaraderie is special.
In fact, the adversity that we have faced this season has developed that camaraderie, only it’s done it at home.
I work online and use social media a lot and the admiration for Derby’s support, especially those of you who travel away is a delight to read. I’ve even read genuine Forest and Leeds fans say they’re impressed.
And what’s not to be impressed about?
Forget the trolls who are loving this, the REAL football supporters appreciate and understand what Rooney has dragged the club through and the guy is universally respected, exponentially more so than when he was merely an excellent player.
He’s now an excellent ex-player and an excellent human being. Time will tell if he can become an excellent manager, but the signs are promising.
The second year under Arthur we did come up and that season was even better for road trips..
I’ve seen Derby beat Benfica, Real Madrid, every top English club multiple times and Forest many times. But if I were to list the best 5 games I’ve ever attended, Derby at home to Rotherham in the old 3rd Division on a Friday night would be up there.
That game with that penalty that took us back up to what would now be the Championship was a raucous, intense and then delirious atmosphere ending in an effing celebration comparable with any I have witnessed - although to be fair, my memory is a tad blurry because we did hit the pub hard.
I doubt there was a Liverpool fan that got anything like the joy from beating Man City in the cup semi or will get more if they win the thing, than we Derby fans got from squeaking past Rotherham that night.
The fact is, winning is just fun, no matter what division you are in. And beating adversity is fun too. So much more satisfying and enjoyable than just delivering on what’s expected.
Somebody posted that they hope we're not that team that thinks they will bounce back up.
I don't really care if fans think that. It's totally irrelevant.
What is relevant is what WR thinks and what he allows his staff and players to think.
And I have no doubt whatsoever that he'll not allow that entitled type of mindset to creep in.
The good news is we have renewed hope for a stable club, a very promising manager in place, an Academy that is flourishing even if it is being pillaged and some wins to look forward to.
We are where we are, so we may as well embrace it and have fun. And you will have some fun, I promise.

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In a short period of time Kirchner has told us Rooney will be here next season. He has also confirmed that circa 40 players are needed and that initial investment is needed.
And now we are hearing the EFL are happy with his proposals and we could be starting next season without a points deduction.
Sounding good.
 
 

I agree with this as I know from experience when I go to away games I buy a lot of beer/food so there is money to be made by looking after the away fans.
I think it was at Brightons new ground (& possibly Reading) where due to the location of the stadium they've had to cater better for fans outside the stadium with big screens and live music. And at Brighton they used to get real ale in from the location of the away team - nice touch
I'll guess that as we've been in adminstration, we'll be free from the catering contracts of the past too

Most of those costs would be the responsibility of the tenant, not the landlord. So I do think the Council could take on ground ownership. They would also be protecting the many other local businesses that rely on matchday income and would still be getting the business rates from the club - no club, no business rates !
We know the ongoing cost of running the club will be high for the new owner, probably why the new owner process has proved so difficult but in the due process will be clear to them. If the new owner can't afford it then they wont buy but they must already know about these costs, it's not a secret.
 

Interesting interview with Garry Cook from back in January if anyone wants it.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vVEFNQzE5NzkwMDE4NTk/episode/MTE5ODdmYmMtNmFmOC0xMWVjLThkNWYtOGYyYTI0YzNmNWY2?ep=14
Talks about Derby for the last 6 mins or so.
I still can't someone with Cook's career and reputation working with Kirchner if the guy wasn't serious.

People who are worth £60m would not be spending £22m on a private jet (paid for from his funds, not borrowed according to him), his worth must be much, much more
Although he could have spent that money on us & used Easyjet ?

People who are worth £60m would not be spending £22m on a private jet (paid for from his funds, not borrowed according to him), his worth must be much, much more
Although he could have spent that money on us & used Easyjet ?

People who are worth £60m would not be spending £22m on a private jet (paid for from his funds, not borrowed according to him), his worth must be much, much more
Although he could have spent that money on us & used Easyjet ?

Got to agree in my experience also.
Americans I have encountered with work are fantastic communicators, have bags of confidence and positivity but when it comes to the real deal it can be disappointing
They certainly talk the talk but do they walk the walk ?- I certainly hope so in this case, in fact i'm desperate for it
Probably an unpopular observation but my mate is an avid Wycombe fan & has contacts close to the top of the club. The American owner and his son ( I know they are unpopular on here) have apparently transformed the club in a good way from top to bottom - I'm talking about off the pitch here - and this despite having no historic connection with Wycombe
Big improvements for the fan experience & really connecting with the fan base, and plenty of progressive ideas. Believe it or not, they apparently don't rate the EFL Committee either !!
So if you get the right American etc etc

Got to agree in my experience also.
Americans I have encountered with work are fantastic communicators, have bags of confidence and positivity but when it comes to the real deal it can be disappointing
They certainly talk the talk but do they walk the walk ?- I certainly hope so in this case, in fact i'm desperate for it
Probably an unpopular observation but my mate is an avid Wycombe fan & has contacts close to the top of the club. The American owner and his son ( I know they are unpopular on here) have apparently transformed the club in a good way from top to bottom - I'm talking about off the pitch here - and this despite having no historic connection with Wycombe
Big improvements for the fan experience & really connecting with the fan base, and plenty of progressive ideas. Believe it or not, they apparently don't rate the EFL Committee either !!
So if you get the right American etc etc

Got to agree in my experience also.
Americans I have encountered with work are fantastic communicators, have bags of confidence and positivity but when it comes to the real deal it can be disappointing
They certainly talk the talk but do they walk the walk ?- I certainly hope so in this case, in fact i'm desperate for it
Probably an unpopular observation but my mate is an avid Wycombe fan & has contacts close to the top of the club. The American owner and his son ( I know they are unpopular on here) have apparently transformed the club in a good way from top to bottom - I'm talking about off the pitch here - and this despite having no historic connection with Wycombe
Big improvements for the fan experience & really connecting with the fan base, and plenty of progressive ideas. Believe it or not, they apparently don't rate the EFL Committee either !!
So if you get the right American etc etc