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When is anyone in football actually going to step up and say - what the hell is this mess and how has Derby County been allowed to be messed around with by so many cowboys for so long?? Honestly, from MM to all the failed takeovers, to Q, how has so many inept people got involved in this club in a short space of time? It really beggars belief. 

Why do people keep saying he is crypto rich & sending crypto? 
He has confirmed already he got out the crypto game a while ago so has got the money.

Why do people keep saying he is crypto rich & sending crypto? 
He has confirmed already he got out the crypto game a while ago so has got the money.

Why do people keep saying he is crypto rich & sending crypto? 
He has confirmed already he got out the crypto game a while ago so has got the money.

Why do people keep saying he is crypto rich & sending crypto? 
He has confirmed already he got out the crypto game a while ago so has got the money.

Why do people keep saying he is crypto rich & sending crypto? 
He has confirmed already he got out the crypto game a while ago so has got the money.

Why do people keep saying he is crypto rich & sending crypto? 
He has confirmed already he got out the crypto game a while ago so has got the money.

Why do people keep saying he is crypto rich & sending crypto? 
He has confirmed already he got out the crypto game a while ago so has got the money.

Seems ludicrous to me that after all this time, about turns, shenanigans etc..
we are prepared to pull the plug, when it has been officially confirmed
that the 'millions'  are in transit, and going through the system
what a difference a day makes eh

I hope CK gets his payment through because that’s the best way to keep Rooney, keep current players and to attract new players.
 

Getting a little tired of the 'Quantuma aren't talking to us' line from MA.
I'm not trying to defend Quantuma here, but their legal duty as administrators is to get the best deal for the creditors involved. Now, either Quantuma are so bad at their job that they are literally illegal, or CK's offer is still better for creditors than Ashley's offer.

Ashley the saviour could have bought us in December and given Wayne Rooney and the team a chance at avoiding relegation! So could CK to be fair, but at least CK came back with acceptable bid(s).
My belief, maybe wrongly, is that Ashley's bid is so derisory, it wasn't worthy of a response or discussion.
You know, like when you put something on eBay expecting to sell for hundreds, and someone within 10mins offers you £10 via a private message, but you have to deliver it!

And Kirchner's money should arrive within days. The difference being: creditors getting more money, no points deduction, and us having a better squad for next season.

Can we stop this Ashley saviour rhetoric please. If the bloke had made a serious offer he would be our owner but he clearly hasn’t. The admins are not ignoring him nor is Mel pulling the strings, he simply has not made an offer that will satisfy creditors. Until he is willing to do so, the admins should ignore him.

he is not transferring Crypto. I have just listened to the Alan Nixon on talksport and that was interesting.  The issue with CK is that he is transferring an amount larger than anything he has done before (red flag) and from the US to a country he probably has never transferred to before (red flag).
I would imagined a compliance officer of a US bank has made a SAR (suspicious activity report) to the FinCen (the US money laundering reporting establishment). In the UK we would send our SAR to the NCA (National Crime Agency).
The issue with this is that your bank transfer is blocked for a period (short) of time to allow an investigation. It will then be released. If you ever have a payment that is held up by a bank for about 5 days then that is what has probably happened.
Also it is a criminal offence to tell your client (CK) if you have made a SAR, so he will be well frustrated.
If it hasn't gone to the FinCen then the release should be quicker as the bank will be asking for potential proof of where his funds have come from and where they are going.  
The US banks are amongst the most stringent in the world due to the large fines given out by US regulators.
I think we just need to be patient as I'm not sure how much CK can tell us.

So, my summary at the moment.
Nixon is getting info from someon like Stretford to put out calming messages about the deal and support the CK bid going through.
Dawes getting info from the Ashley camp trying to shake things up and put pressure on the timescales of the CK bid in an effort to gazump.
Percy is possibly being fed by the Ashley camp, but is more likely getting info from the EFL being twitchy that the funds haven't cleared still. Correlates with what Big Trav was saying that Ashley has also been in contact with EFL but not Admins.
As fans, we just need to realise that reacting to any of this will just make the situation seem more extreme. Until we have something official that isn't through a media mouthpiece we should allow the process to take its course. People going on twitter and directing messages to CK are certainly not helping, but hopefully it doesn't mean he loses confidence and derails the work that's gone in so far.

I've kept quiet on this as thought best to see how things play out. 
One thing a lot of people seem to be completely forgetting on this, is that contracts have been exchanged, conditional on the ground sale.
Therefore, unless it is the ground sale that stops the transaction from progressing, CK is on the hook.
Not sure why anyone thinks he would exchange contracts if he did not have the money to back it up.
Out of interest, to anyone that has spent the day abusing CK, how will you now react to him if the purchase goes ahead?

If he had gone to another league 1 side then I would be gutted, however stoke can offer him a level of football that we cant. We all know the reasons why, but if he wants championship football there is nothing the club can do.

As I understand it, Quantama announced they WOULD end the exclusivity period, not that they HAVE.
The money may have cleared in time to stop that process.

Surely I'm misunderstanding you. Dawes made a mess of an already messy situation, by making leading comments on the reason why the take over has yet to be completed. Nixon from many hours ago stated: There is a money holdup in the shape of provenance checks. Then all day long, he has kept stating the same thing: Nothing has changed, only that one thing still needs sorting. Even just a few minutes ago, Nixon again answering the same questions from people: Nothing has changed, still need the funds to be cleared. 
Nixon has been the most level headed Journo/voice today (and many days) when it has come to this particular Derby saga. 

It means what has been the case for a while, there’s lots of rumour and speculation, no official word from the parties involved in the transaction. Ed Dawes may have been correctly informed by his sources, Nixon may have, the opposite could also be true, only the people involved know the actual truth so until there is official word we have to carry on waiting and choose what to believe and what to take with a pinch of salt.

Thing is if the funds have cleared and it's done then it wasn't really a Rollercoaster day..it was just a day where there were certain reporters pushing for a sensational story that was never there.
This fast food media can be a total nightmare at times and has whipped elements of the fan base into a feeding frenzy..
Hopefully we will know soon enough.

Agree - there is simply nothing in it for someone like CK to string everyone along this far if he doesn't have the means to close the deal.
I saw someone suggest that he "just wanted to raise his profile"
How does that work? He raises it from "bloke no one has heard of" to "bloke everyone knows as a tyre-kicking fantasist"?
The money laundering checks seem the most obvious fly in the ointment
All we have to be concerned about now is that he's not *actually* a money-launderer...
 

Spot on!