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HuddersRam got a reaction from Ramarena in The Administration Thread
As bad as that statement is (not losing six in a row helps you get promoted, lads), why would Quantuma not make contact with one of the key blockers to a sale for two months?
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HuddersRam got a reaction from DarkFruitsRam7 in The Administration Thread
As bad as that statement is (not losing six in a row helps you get promoted, lads), why would Quantuma not make contact with one of the key blockers to a sale for two months?
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HuddersRam reacted to Day in The Football Creditor rule is explicit, simple, and solves all of Derby's issues
Three parties have made offers, any one of which would allow the club to exit administration with a substantial payment to creditors.
These offers need clarity, that the claim by Boro and the potential claim by Wycombe do not qualify as Football Creditors.
The football creditor rule is not defined in the EFL regulations, it is part of the Articles of Association of the Football League Limited, of which all clubs are minority shareholders (the golden share).
The football creditor rule is in Article 48, which clearly defines what constitutes a football creditor, copied below from Companies House.
The rule clearly states that it is to cover payments of "debts due". How possibly, can an unproven, unquantified claim such as Boro's be consider a debt due?
If the EFL is suggesting that any claim by a football club or employee, which is unproven, should be classified as a football creditor it would create mayhem. And, bona fide football creditors with debts due, and other preferential and unsecured creditors would lose out as a result.
The EFL can't have this both ways. If they choose to say Article 48 does not qualify Boro's claim as a football creditor the EFL are suggesting they might be sued by Boro.
However, if they choose to say that Article 48 should be interpreted (which is a wild stretch) in a way that Boro should be classed as a football creditor then it is almost certain that the EFL would be sued by the Administrators and the creditors including genuine football creditors, and HMRC for their easily quantified losses.
The EFL also risk being sued under section 994 of the companies act for acting prejudicially against the interests of a minority shareholder of the football league ie. DCFC.
We need to apply pressure on the EFL to get off the fence, see that their actions alone are preventing the Administrators from getting a deal agreed.
Article 48 says that Boro's claim cannot be a football creditor and the EFL must state that and stop this nonesense.
"48 FOOTBALL CREDITORS
48.1 Where a Member Club defaults in making any payment due to any of the following persons,
the Member Club ('Defaulting Club') shall be subject to such penalty as the Board may decide
and subject also to Article 48.2:
48.1.1 The League, The FA Premier League and the Football Association;
48.1.2 any of the Pension Schemes;
48.1.3 any Member Club and any Club of The FA Premier League;
48.1.4 any holding company of The League and any subsidiary company of that holding
company;
48.1.5 any sums due to any full-time employee or former full-time employee of the Member
Club by way of arrears of remuneration up to the date on which that contract of employment is
terminated. This excludes for these purposes all and any claims for redundancy, unfair or
wrongful dismissal or other claims arising out of the termination of the contract
or in respect of any period after the actual date of termination;
48.1.6 any sums due to the Professional Footballers Association in repayment of
an interest free loan together with such reasonable administration and legal costs as have been
approved by the Board;
48.1.7 The Football Foundation;
48.1.8 The Football Conference Limited trading as "the National League";
48.1.9 The Northern Premier League Limited;
48.1.1O The Isthmian League Limited;
48.1.11 The Southern League Limited;
48.1.12 Any member club of the League or organisations listed in Articles 48.1.8 to 48.1.11
inclusive;
48.1.13 Any County Football Association affiliated to The Football Association; and
48.1.14 Any Leagues affiliated to The Football Association and any clubs affiliated to any
County Football Association recognised by The Football Association.
48.2 Subject to the provisions of Articles 48.3 and 48.4, the Board shall apply any sums
standing to the credit of the Pool Account which would otherwise be payable to a
Defaulting Club, in discharging the creditors in Article 48.1. As between the Football
Creditors, the priority for payment shall be in accordance with the order in which those
Football Creditors are listed in Article 48.1.
48.3 If, having discharged all Football Creditors in any preceding class of Football
Creditor (as
· required by Article 48.2) the sum then available is not suffident to discharge in full the
Football Creditors listed in Articles 48.1.1, 48.1.2 or 48.1.4 the Board will decide the
allocation.
48.4 If, having discharged all Football Creditors in any preceding class of Football
Creditor (as required by Article 48.2) the sum then available is not sufficient to discharge in
full the Football Creditors listed in Article 48.1.3, 48.1.5, 48.1.12, 48.1.13 or 48.1.14 the sum
will be allocated pro rata amongst the creditors of the same class.
Note - Clubs are reminded that any assignment of future entitlements from the pool account are
subject to Article 45 and this must be brought to the attention of the other party. Furthermore
assignments must be in legal form and registered with the office. Assignments are given priority
according to the date and time of registration."
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HuddersRam reacted to Ramos in Margaret Beckett on Radio Derby
Really worth a listen to both MPs. MB very passionate and sounds like she will stop at nothing now to take this on. She felt personally insulted by the EFL due to conversations they’d previously had behind the scenes.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from Fla Ram in Let's get national media coverage
I've spoken with David Conn this morning (Guardian) who was absolutely vital in the unearthing of the Three Amigos saga. They're looking to ensure they'll be reporting the situation within their team.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from Ramarena in The Administration Thread
It's just a generally awful statement. Supposedly rushed through tonight, pass the buck back onto Quantuma and give a 'Nothing to do with us' sort of response.
A late night statement ain't the sign of an organisation in a decent position. We made enough of them to know that.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from ariotofmyown in The Administration Thread
It's just a generally awful statement. Supposedly rushed through tonight, pass the buck back onto Quantuma and give a 'Nothing to do with us' sort of response.
A late night statement ain't the sign of an organisation in a decent position. We made enough of them to know that.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from Crewton in The Administration Thread
It's just a generally awful statement. Supposedly rushed through tonight, pass the buck back onto Quantuma and give a 'Nothing to do with us' sort of response.
A late night statement ain't the sign of an organisation in a decent position. We made enough of them to know that.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from HectorsHouse in Message for MM
Probably. Heard from a very good source (that lives in the same row of houses) that he sold his place down in Sandbanks as well, where the average house price is a cool £1.5m.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from Hector was the best in Let's get national media coverage
I've spoken with David Conn this morning (Guardian) who was absolutely vital in the unearthing of the Three Amigos saga. They're looking to ensure they'll be reporting the situation within their team.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from Zag zig in Let's get national media coverage
I've spoken with David Conn this morning (Guardian) who was absolutely vital in the unearthing of the Three Amigos saga. They're looking to ensure they'll be reporting the situation within their team.
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HuddersRam reacted to BondJovi in The Administration Thread
They just hoped verbose waffling would mask the panic. If anything it just illuminates their own failings.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from r_wilcockson in The Administration Thread
It's just a generally awful statement. Supposedly rushed through tonight, pass the buck back onto Quantuma and give a 'Nothing to do with us' sort of response.
A late night statement ain't the sign of an organisation in a decent position. We made enough of them to know that.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from Nishfan in The Administration Thread
It's just a generally awful statement. Supposedly rushed through tonight, pass the buck back onto Quantuma and give a 'Nothing to do with us' sort of response.
A late night statement ain't the sign of an organisation in a decent position. We made enough of them to know that.
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HuddersRam reacted to StarterForTen in The Administration Thread
That statement is brimming with bravado but is underpinned by a retreat of position that an Italian army division would be proud of.
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HuddersRam reacted to ThePrisoner in The Administration Thread
Squeaky bum time for the EFL now and I think we’ll all have Sports Direct mugs in the post with our season ticket renewal info by the end of the month.
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HuddersRam reacted to Ram a lamb a ding dong in The Administration Thread
Agree. Late night post = a rocket up their a$$e$ and trying to justify complete nonsense
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HuddersRam got a reaction from RadioactiveWaste in "Bamfords"
It's Colin I feel sorry for. A surname tarnished
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HuddersRam reacted to Bald Eagle's Barmy Army in The Administration Thread
Our Council tax is going up.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from Inverurie Ram in Let's get national media coverage
I've spoken with David Conn this morning (Guardian) who was absolutely vital in the unearthing of the Three Amigos saga. They're looking to ensure they'll be reporting the situation within their team.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from Crewton in Let's get national media coverage
I've spoken with David Conn this morning (Guardian) who was absolutely vital in the unearthing of the Three Amigos saga. They're looking to ensure they'll be reporting the situation within their team.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from Andicis in Let's get national media coverage
I've spoken with David Conn this morning (Guardian) who was absolutely vital in the unearthing of the Three Amigos saga. They're looking to ensure they'll be reporting the situation within their team.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from SaffyRam in Let's get national media coverage
I've spoken with David Conn this morning (Guardian) who was absolutely vital in the unearthing of the Three Amigos saga. They're looking to ensure they'll be reporting the situation within their team.
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HuddersRam got a reaction from Wsm-ram in Let's get national media coverage
I've spoken with David Conn this morning (Guardian) who was absolutely vital in the unearthing of the Three Amigos saga. They're looking to ensure they'll be reporting the situation within their team.