YorkshireRam

No, your point was that the way Warne publicly discusses players is causing damage. The burden of proof with a statement like that is on you, and you've provided precisely naff all to evidence that aspersion... Same goes with it negatively impacting our potential transfer business, I used the Clough comparison to show that could also be a wayward suggestion, yet you conveniently seemed to gloss over this...
You don't like Warne, essentially, and you're now catastrophising about all the damage you THINK he may cause, but stating it like fact. Until you provide substantiation it's just pessimistically negative opinion, that's all. 

That's still not evidence... You're basically saying ''I wouldn't have liked to be talked about, the way Warne talked about White''... but you're not everyone, and not everyone will agree. Harvey might have received an outpouring of support from his teammates off the back of the comment once they realised he was feeling bad... WE DON'T KNOW.
You can't just go off and say it's bad management when you don't have the slightest clue how it's affecting the players though!

No, your point was that the way Warne publicly discusses players is causing damage. The burden of proof with a statement like that is on you, and you've provided precisely naff all to evidence that aspersion... Same goes with it negatively impacting our potential transfer business, I used the Clough comparison to show that could also be a wayward suggestion, yet you conveniently seemed to gloss over this...
You don't like Warne, essentially, and you're now catastrophising about all the damage you THINK he may cause, but stating it like fact. Until you provide substantiation it's just pessimistically negative opinion, that's all. 

Judge him on what happens, not made up scenarios in your head.

Warne isn't his therapist 😂
He might have made the comment to show how much White cares- that he's not here just to maintain fitness but really cared about his involvement within the club during his stay. Who knows. What we do know is he knows those players and the psychology of the game better than any of us do- and because of that, benefit of the doubt is often, sensibly, awarded in his favour. 
And just to counteract the transfer point, Clough made some of our best signings in recent years AFTER he publicly came out and told Cywka to ''go back to wherever he came from'' which is undeniably worse than anything Warne has said... 

That's still not evidence... You're basically saying ''I wouldn't have liked to be talked about, the way Warne talked about White''... but you're not everyone, and not everyone will agree. Harvey might have received an outpouring of support from his teammates off the back of the comment once they realised he was feeling bad... WE DON'T KNOW.
You can't just go off and say it's bad management when you don't have the slightest clue how it's affecting the players though!

No, your point was that the way Warne publicly discusses players is causing damage. The burden of proof with a statement like that is on you, and you've provided precisely naff all to evidence that aspersion... Same goes with it negatively impacting our potential transfer business, I used the Clough comparison to show that could also be a wayward suggestion, yet you conveniently seemed to gloss over this...
You don't like Warne, essentially, and you're now catastrophising about all the damage you THINK he may cause, but stating it like fact. Until you provide substantiation it's just pessimistically negative opinion, that's all. 

No, your point was that the way Warne publicly discusses players is causing damage. The burden of proof with a statement like that is on you, and you've provided precisely naff all to evidence that aspersion... Same goes with it negatively impacting our potential transfer business, I used the Clough comparison to show that could also be a wayward suggestion, yet you conveniently seemed to gloss over this...
You don't like Warne, essentially, and you're now catastrophising about all the damage you THINK he may cause, but stating it like fact. Until you provide substantiation it's just pessimistically negative opinion, that's all. 

Warne isn't his therapist 😂
He might have made the comment to show how much White cares- that he's not here just to maintain fitness but really cared about his involvement within the club during his stay. Who knows. What we do know is he knows those players and the psychology of the game better than any of us do- and because of that, benefit of the doubt is often, sensibly, awarded in his favour. 
And just to counteract the transfer point, Clough made some of our best signings in recent years AFTER he publicly came out and told Cywka to ''go back to wherever he came from'' which is undeniably worse than anything Warne has said... 

The culmination of all those things is what begins to sway opinion, I reckon. He makes a baffling decision not to start our best striker in the biggest game of the season, we miss out on promotion, he's then openly touted as being the next Chelsea manager during which the media circus ensures we cannot properly prepare for pre-season, the clip comes out which adds fuel to the flames, and then he finally sods off - while Frank may not be single-handedly responsible for every element of how it went down, the whole thing was just irritating and that does reflect personally on him, rightly or wrongly. 
I think Rowett having walked the season before played a part too, that feeling of betrayal probably still fresh in minds. It was just an annoyingly dragged-out departure, basically. 

Two things stop me worrying:
1. His age; while this isn't an issue in terms of individual ability, we're looking at a squad overhaul/rebuild, ideally we'll be signing a striker or 2 to build a team around, which can't happen with a 35 year old as our main striker. 
2. While the prospect of losing a 25-goal a season striker seems daunting, next season the goal responsibility has to be shared more evenly amongst the squad. If we get this balance of play right, we shouldn't need a single talisman to bag 20+ goals. I'd argue it's better to have 3 players hitting 10+ than a single player on 30+...
So while ideally he'll be sticking around, I don't believe it's catastrophic if he does leave, we'll just need to be astute with our recruitment.

I wasn't necessarily referring to team selection when I talk about 'tactics'- the discussion seemed to be about whether we had defined methods of play or not, so by 'tactics' I meant more the footballing system the given XI is expected to play within.
It's the balance between tactics and man management, as I previously mentioned, that is the key to success. Cocu's tactics on paper were brilliant, and led to huge success in the Eredivisie... but they didn't work here. So it's not one or the other, it's a mixture of the two. The OP was putting this big focus on the idea we're not drilled in executing very specific, established methods of play- when we saw with Cocu that can often have an adverse effect on overall team performances and results...

By this logic, I assume you believe Cocu was our best manager of the last 20 years? Tactically what he was trying was far more advanced than anyone else- fluid positional rotation, utilising long periods of ball retention via slow build up to dominate games... how well overall did that work out for us?
It's a balance of finding a tactical setup that suits the players, whilst ensuring they're playing to their full individual potential through man management and psychology- Warne seems very big on the latter. Cocu underestimated the ability level of the squad and asked something unrealistic of them. Perhaps at this level, ensuring consistently solid individual performances goes further than trying to establish defined methods of play?
I love discussing tactics and football stats but with stuff like this I can't help come back to the Classic Clough quote:

By this logic, I assume you believe Cocu was our best manager of the last 20 years? Tactically what he was trying was far more advanced than anyone else- fluid positional rotation, utilising long periods of ball retention via slow build up to dominate games... how well overall did that work out for us?
It's a balance of finding a tactical setup that suits the players, whilst ensuring they're playing to their full individual potential through man management and psychology- Warne seems very big on the latter. Cocu underestimated the ability level of the squad and asked something unrealistic of them. Perhaps at this level, ensuring consistently solid individual performances goes further than trying to establish defined methods of play?
I love discussing tactics and football stats but with stuff like this I can't help come back to the Classic Clough quote:

By this logic, I assume you believe Cocu was our best manager of the last 20 years? Tactically what he was trying was far more advanced than anyone else- fluid positional rotation, utilising long periods of ball retention via slow build up to dominate games... how well overall did that work out for us?
It's a balance of finding a tactical setup that suits the players, whilst ensuring they're playing to their full individual potential through man management and psychology- Warne seems very big on the latter. Cocu underestimated the ability level of the squad and asked something unrealistic of them. Perhaps at this level, ensuring consistently solid individual performances goes further than trying to establish defined methods of play?
I love discussing tactics and football stats but with stuff like this I can't help come back to the Classic Clough quote:

I always said Roos was a good keeper and was always abused for it. Our fans treated him awfully. Imagine booing your own keeper and ironically cheering every time he caught the ball, some of the most embarrassing stuff our fan base has done, what wonders that will do to a keepers confidence. 
Also I've just checked, statistically the best shot stopper in the Scottish Prem this season.

Two things stop me worrying:
1. His age; while this isn't an issue in terms of individual ability, we're looking at a squad overhaul/rebuild, ideally we'll be signing a striker or 2 to build a team around, which can't happen with a 35 year old as our main striker. 
2. While the prospect of losing a 25-goal a season striker seems daunting, next season the goal responsibility has to be shared more evenly amongst the squad. If we get this balance of play right, we shouldn't need a single talisman to bag 20+ goals. I'd argue it's better to have 3 players hitting 10+ than a single player on 30+...
So while ideally he'll be sticking around, I don't believe it's catastrophic if he does leave, we'll just need to be astute with our recruitment.

Two things stop me worrying:
1. His age; while this isn't an issue in terms of individual ability, we're looking at a squad overhaul/rebuild, ideally we'll be signing a striker or 2 to build a team around, which can't happen with a 35 year old as our main striker. 
2. While the prospect of losing a 25-goal a season striker seems daunting, next season the goal responsibility has to be shared more evenly amongst the squad. If we get this balance of play right, we shouldn't need a single talisman to bag 20+ goals. I'd argue it's better to have 3 players hitting 10+ than a single player on 30+...
So while ideally he'll be sticking around, I don't believe it's catastrophic if he does leave, we'll just need to be astute with our recruitment.

Two things stop me worrying:
1. His age; while this isn't an issue in terms of individual ability, we're looking at a squad overhaul/rebuild, ideally we'll be signing a striker or 2 to build a team around, which can't happen with a 35 year old as our main striker. 
2. While the prospect of losing a 25-goal a season striker seems daunting, next season the goal responsibility has to be shared more evenly amongst the squad. If we get this balance of play right, we shouldn't need a single talisman to bag 20+ goals. I'd argue it's better to have 3 players hitting 10+ than a single player on 30+...
So while ideally he'll be sticking around, I don't believe it's catastrophic if he does leave, we'll just need to be astute with our recruitment.

Two things stop me worrying:
1. His age; while this isn't an issue in terms of individual ability, we're looking at a squad overhaul/rebuild, ideally we'll be signing a striker or 2 to build a team around, which can't happen with a 35 year old as our main striker. 
2. While the prospect of losing a 25-goal a season striker seems daunting, next season the goal responsibility has to be shared more evenly amongst the squad. If we get this balance of play right, we shouldn't need a single talisman to bag 20+ goals. I'd argue it's better to have 3 players hitting 10+ than a single player on 30+...
So while ideally he'll be sticking around, I don't believe it's catastrophic if he does leave, we'll just need to be astute with our recruitment.

Two things stop me worrying:
1. His age; while this isn't an issue in terms of individual ability, we're looking at a squad overhaul/rebuild, ideally we'll be signing a striker or 2 to build a team around, which can't happen with a 35 year old as our main striker. 
2. While the prospect of losing a 25-goal a season striker seems daunting, next season the goal responsibility has to be shared more evenly amongst the squad. If we get this balance of play right, we shouldn't need a single talisman to bag 20+ goals. I'd argue it's better to have 3 players hitting 10+ than a single player on 30+...
So while ideally he'll be sticking around, I don't believe it's catastrophic if he does leave, we'll just need to be astute with our recruitment.

Two things stop me worrying:
1. His age; while this isn't an issue in terms of individual ability, we're looking at a squad overhaul/rebuild, ideally we'll be signing a striker or 2 to build a team around, which can't happen with a 35 year old as our main striker. 
2. While the prospect of losing a 25-goal a season striker seems daunting, next season the goal responsibility has to be shared more evenly amongst the squad. If we get this balance of play right, we shouldn't need a single talisman to bag 20+ goals. I'd argue it's better to have 3 players hitting 10+ than a single player on 30+...
So while ideally he'll be sticking around, I don't believe it's catastrophic if he does leave, we'll just need to be astute with our recruitment.

The size of our online fanbase plays a big part in this. You see it a lot with Leeds as well, we get far more media outlets targeting us for articles because the size of our online presence ensures clicks. This then creates an echo chamber though where we see disproportionately high numbers of articles about us and so more people read about us as a by-product. 
Couple this with the general confusion about our 'misconduct'- the amount of people who STILL believe that our punishment was for selling the stadium and 'cooking the books' is honestly astonishing. These types tend to get quiet very quickly though once it's pointed out we only got punished or our amortisation method which wasn't even explicitly against the rules... 
Combine these two together and it's where this perception that we're 'bad guys' has come from; misunderstanding and it being pedalled by the media a lot.