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How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

In that case mate, it's too late.... ?

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?
Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.
They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.
They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.
Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. You can have the best of leaders and financial backers but if the dice are weighted and luck goes against you then poo happens but I will never fault Mel for his good will and positive intent. 
 
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More to the point he had the ball in good positions 5-6 times and cocked up every forward pass or cross aside from a couple of square balls.

...but only because we improved for a short spell in the middle, which just about sustained us through an awful end of the season during which we'd reverted back to our previous state of hopelessness, or worse.
If we continue on the same path we've been on things won't improve, they'll get worse - that isn't progression.

...but only because we improved for a short spell in the middle, which just about sustained us through an awful end of the season during which we'd reverted back to our previous state of hopelessness, or worse.
If we continue on the same path we've been on things won't improve, they'll get worse - that isn't progression.

There's a big difference between
a) waking up to nonsense (of which there is plenty), and
b) getting frustrated that things have gone on as long as they have, looking to lash out but in concentrating where your fists are aiming forgetting to check your footing and subsequently falling down a rabbit-hole of counter-nonsense, having your emotions played on by  any old ******** 'opinion-dressed-as-news' article that seeks to stoke the fires of discontent, and partaking in social media echo-chambers where you get dragged deeper and deeper into giving credence to conspiracy theories.
Obviously I'm not seeking to tar everyone who's unhappy (who's happy, exactly?)  with the b) brush because that would be a gross generalisation, and most people (I assume, I hope) are smarter than that, but there are plenty of people who've well and truly been suckered by the very same brand of ******** they'll tell everyone else is the 'truth' they've closed their eyes to.

There's a big difference between
a) waking up to nonsense (of which there is plenty), and
b) getting frustrated that things have gone on as long as they have, looking to lash out but in concentrating where your fists are aiming forgetting to check your footing and subsequently falling down a rabbit-hole of counter-nonsense, having your emotions played on by  any old ******** 'opinion-dressed-as-news' article that seeks to stoke the fires of discontent, and partaking in social media echo-chambers where you get dragged deeper and deeper into giving credence to conspiracy theories.
Obviously I'm not seeking to tar everyone who's unhappy (who's happy, exactly?)  with the b) brush because that would be a gross generalisation, and most people (I assume, I hope) are smarter than that, but there are plenty of people who've well and truly been suckered by the very same brand of ******** they'll tell everyone else is the 'truth' they've closed their eyes to.

There's a big difference between
a) waking up to nonsense (of which there is plenty), and
b) getting frustrated that things have gone on as long as they have, looking to lash out but in concentrating where your fists are aiming forgetting to check your footing and subsequently falling down a rabbit-hole of counter-nonsense, having your emotions played on by  any old ******** 'opinion-dressed-as-news' article that seeks to stoke the fires of discontent, and partaking in social media echo-chambers where you get dragged deeper and deeper into giving credence to conspiracy theories.
Obviously I'm not seeking to tar everyone who's unhappy (who's happy, exactly?)  with the b) brush because that would be a gross generalisation, and most people (I assume, I hope) are smarter than that, but there are plenty of people who've well and truly been suckered by the very same brand of ******** they'll tell everyone else is the 'truth' they've closed their eyes to.

There's a big difference between
a) waking up to nonsense (of which there is plenty), and
b) getting frustrated that things have gone on as long as they have, looking to lash out but in concentrating where your fists are aiming forgetting to check your footing and subsequently falling down a rabbit-hole of counter-nonsense, having your emotions played on by  any old ******** 'opinion-dressed-as-news' article that seeks to stoke the fires of discontent, and partaking in social media echo-chambers where you get dragged deeper and deeper into giving credence to conspiracy theories.
Obviously I'm not seeking to tar everyone who's unhappy (who's happy, exactly?)  with the b) brush because that would be a gross generalisation, and most people (I assume, I hope) are smarter than that, but there are plenty of people who've well and truly been suckered by the very same brand of ******** they'll tell everyone else is the 'truth' they've closed their eyes to.

The way we set up it was more a case of Jozwiak being in support of Byrne.
It's understandable because Byrne's crossing is of such a high standard, it doesn't really help Jozwiak much though. Lots of people just see 'winger', check the goals/assists and judge entirely on that.
What's very clear from watching Poland is that Jozwiak is very much told to stick to the touchline wherever possible, for us he was told to move inside to make way for Byrne.

First bit, agreed although there's little evidence from last season to suggest he'll do well unless Bielik returns, or he sorts out the midfield balance another way, or he lets the reigns off the attacking players like against Brentford away and Sheff Weds at home. 
That said even without Bielik the Waghorn/Gregory two up top seemed to be a decent idea so perhaps he can replicate that... although we never got to see whether it would have worked over a longer period, it could have been a revelation but equally it could just as easily have been sussed out and become ineffective after 2 games.
I'm happy enough to see what he can do if we sort out poo out and bring 'his' players in. I'd be even happier if he employed an experienced head coach / mentor (of his own choosing) to help him.
That doesn't mean all his failings and  last season can just be written off, even if you want to pretend they were nothing to do with him.
A few months before the end of the season you said that "If we get relegated then it would be down to Cocu and Rooney" - fair play we didn't get relegated, by the very skin of our teeth, so there's your get-out clause.
However it's funny how, but for the grace of a Cardiff goal against Rotherham, or Curtis Davies not endangering himself by playing (when no other player would) to keep Sheff Weds from scoring another, you'd have accepted that Rooney deserved his share of the blame, but because they didn't you're acting like he's absolutely blameless, his management so far is beyond question and he's above all reproach.
It's no wonder people are calling you out.
The relegation watch thread was quite an interesting read back in February. Tetchy, lol. Glad it worked out.