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It shows the Efl trying to max out on penalties … trying to relegate wendies if they possibly could. So no it doesn’t show they have it in for us at all.
but it shows the fundamental conflicted issue  Efl has .. being regulator of clubs as well as acting for the interests of the clubs .
 
it is supposed to act for the interests of all clubs , including us and Sheffield Wednesday by the way. But plainly isn’t .. it just panders to the mob rule and tries to max out on penalties every time.

Isn’t an appeal about how covid affected us because the appeal is about us not other clubs 

Based on previous form, even if DCFC somehow won this the EFL would probably just appeal until they get the result that they/Gibson wanted.?

Tbh in my view the government has dropped the ball on the final stretch of vaccination. They were too slow to vaccinate the under 30s and then too slow to decide to only partially vaccinate the kids. 
Schools are a huge driver case spread but seems to be only the risk to the kids that seems to be considered rather than wider community. 
People should be under no illusion that covid is an ongoing problem - 40k additional deaths per year is not a good outcome. 

Tbh in my view the government has dropped the ball on the final stretch of vaccination. They were too slow to vaccinate the under 30s and then too slow to decide to only partially vaccinate the kids. 
Schools are a huge driver case spread but seems to be only the risk to the kids that seems to be considered rather than wider community. 
People should be under no illusion that covid is an ongoing problem - 40k additional deaths per year is not a good outcome. 

I'm surprised at how this film has been released.. Seems like it's been released in non-English speaking countries prior to US and UK?

Think it's clear at this point that the vaccine has a great impact at preventing serious illness, death and in many cases infection. 
It wanes after a few months but not as much on death and illness. I think a booster seems like a good idea for everyone... But I imagine it's limited returns after that. I suppose it'll be incorporated in to the flu jab and a combination of inherited protection from infection and/or vaccination will over time reduce the symptoms and severity of infection. 
Australia and NZ seem to ridding themselves of the covid zero approach as vaccination levels increase... Cases in Victoria now seem to be roughly the same as in London and South East. 
NZ still have quite strict rules but very low infections.. I am interested in how their government will manage their transition from covid zero. I suspect NZ and the least impacted states of Australia have the worst of their pandemic to come.

Cant. Window’s closed mate.

Well yes. A 1 in 20 chance of the Rams being liquidated is still far too high. It must never be allowed to happen. 

I think you’re right in that the efl want to resolve (ie negotiate rather than formal process) but they want it on their terms.
 
The top brass at the efl probably feel more under pressure and accountable to the other championship chairmen than the temporary Derby administrators. They can essentially tell the administrators ‘it’s 9pts to make this go away’ or you can risk 12 or more going through DC.
The merit of the ‘charges’ will never see the light of day and will be hidden behind an opaque statement… presumably part of the agreement. The administrators barely care… as long as they can sell the club and recoup the debt. They aren’t going to fund a legal case that drags out for months.
The efl top brass get to placate the other chairmen, cosy their favour and keep in their roles. Derby can’t compete and we as fans suffer.

The EFL will have to bargain with Steve Gibson and Kieran Maguire to make sure whatever the punishment is, its to their satisfaction.

I think you’re right in that the efl want to resolve (ie negotiate rather than formal process) but they want it on their terms.
 
The top brass at the efl probably feel more under pressure and accountable to the other championship chairmen than the temporary Derby administrators. They can essentially tell the administrators ‘it’s 9pts to make this go away’ or you can risk 12 or more going through DC.
The merit of the ‘charges’ will never see the light of day and will be hidden behind an opaque statement… presumably part of the agreement. The administrators barely care… as long as they can sell the club and recoup the debt. They aren’t going to fund a legal case that drags out for months.
The efl top brass get to placate the other chairmen, cosy their favour and keep in their roles. Derby can’t compete and we as fans suffer.

I think you’re right in that the efl want to resolve (ie negotiate rather than formal process) but they want it on their terms.
 
The top brass at the efl probably feel more under pressure and accountable to the other championship chairmen than the temporary Derby administrators. They can essentially tell the administrators ‘it’s 9pts to make this go away’ or you can risk 12 or more going through DC.
The merit of the ‘charges’ will never see the light of day and will be hidden behind an opaque statement… presumably part of the agreement. The administrators barely care… as long as they can sell the club and recoup the debt. They aren’t going to fund a legal case that drags out for months.
The efl top brass get to placate the other chairmen, cosy their favour and keep in their roles. Derby can’t compete and we as fans suffer.

Let's concentrate on the cup... 

Let's concentrate on the cup... 

Yea reading some other clubs forums and people really hate us, as fans. Seen some boro fans are calling us all deluded cos one person on here said sky would be upset that we wouldn't be in the championship anymore. 
So much for fans solidarity. Fans calling other clubs to get points deductions or be relegated or calling other teams cheats should be careful what they wish for.

Yea someone shared the twitter post 
 
I agree with you here. People seem to be conflating the administration being linked to the alleged rule breaking. Almost as if the administration proves that we've been breaking the rules. 
At this moment in time, it still seems like the argument related to the accounting of amortisation still hasn't come to a resolution. 
If the administrators can somehow prevent further rule breaches and can successfuly argue that mels approach is legal then is it 16pts the maximum deduction?
Probably enough to relegate us still but still something to play for? 

Pretty much as Ambitious said. It benefits other clubs if we go out of business, particularly Wycombe, who might be the beneficiary of an extra promotion place this season, or even believe they can lobby to take our place. Many will fancy picking our squad and Academy clean free of charge. Gibson will be able to get an erection again without the little blue pill. Did you ever hear of one football club coming to the aid of another? Anyone who talks about "the football family" is on the same page as those who believe in unicorns. 
 

Yea reading some other clubs forums and people really hate us, as fans. Seen some boro fans are calling us all deluded cos one person on here said sky would be upset that we wouldn't be in the championship anymore. 
So much for fans solidarity. Fans calling other clubs to get points deductions or be relegated or calling other teams cheats should be careful what they wish for.

Yea reading some other clubs forums and people really hate us, as fans. Seen some boro fans are calling us all deluded cos one person on here said sky would be upset that we wouldn't be in the championship anymore. 
So much for fans solidarity. Fans calling other clubs to get points deductions or be relegated or calling other teams cheats should be careful what they wish for.

Yea reading some other clubs forums and people really hate us, as fans. Seen some boro fans are calling us all deluded cos one person on here said sky would be upset that we wouldn't be in the championship anymore. 
So much for fans solidarity. Fans calling other clubs to get points deductions or be relegated or calling other teams cheats should be careful what they wish for.

I hope he gives a bit of an update on that. Unless the administrators tell him not to. 

He wants us completely gone. 

Another 140 page thread of this dodgy Bamford coming up

I wonder if the club can call in cash owed to it by Morris for the stadium sale?