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So forests punishment was to be in the relegation zone for one week. And let’s be honest, they probably won’t be in it again. And yet they still feel the need to appeal. They’ve got off so lightly. Tossers. 

I feel the same. When teams are haggling over £10m for a player like it’s is haggling over 50p at the market, it makes me sick. Like it’s nothing. But it would be a life changing lottery win for any normal person.
Like Trump manifesting $4b overnight. Why can’t normal people have that sort of money, or just tiny bit of it. 

I don't think he's yet twigged that 'real football fans' think Forest are arrogant cheats and deserve to be relegated.

Pull up a chair, this will be a long one.
Me and my wife Leanne have been together 8 years and 5 months, we have been trying for a baby for around 6/7 years. Nothing happened. Leanne has been desperate for our own little baby and seeing friends around us start families has been hard for her.
It’s been hard for myself as I later found out it was probably my fault following a sperm test.
Just before Covid we went to explore IVF options where I was given a sperm test, the results were basically I have swimmers, just not enough to put me in the “normal” range. Not impossible I could get Leanne pregnant, just harder than it would be for others.
Covid landed, lockdown, all non essential treatment and hospital appointments were cancelled, so our doctors asked us to come back once life returned to normal.
Fast forward to August 2023, we returned to the doctors knowing the clock was ticking, Leanne turns 40 this year and would already be classified as a “geriatric”, whilst myself a slightly younger Des O’Connor.
Anyway, they started testing Leanne, she was all clear, I was given another tube to fill and arrange an appointment with the hospital. Contacting them I was told there is such a backlog, we would be waiting until the new year, side note, we’re almost April and I’m still yet to receive a call back.
As I have mentioned elsewhere, October 27th our great nephews moved in with us under an emergency kinship fostering placement, since then we have been undergoing various assessments and training.
We go to the fostering panel to be confirmed foster parents on April 11th.
We was also willing to go down the SGO (Special guardianship order) route which would see them stay with us until they were 18.
Now, this is an important bit. We live in a small 2 bedroom house, me and Leanne looked at it and said maybe this is our calling, maybe we just weren’t meant to have our own and threw ourselves into the boys creating a special bond.
Monday 12th February, 2024, Leanne woke me up in tears saying we need to talk. My eyes had barely adjusted to the daylight before a positive pregnancy test was thrust into my face.
What. The. f***.
We quickly went to Morrison’s to buy another one, just to double check, this time a digital one. Both ClearBlue so super accurate.
The pregnancy was confirmed, 2-3 weeks it said.
We hadn’t bothered to be “careful” as we figured it was never going to happen naturally, but it had so now we was left with a huge dilemma. The boys were meant to be our future now. But it’s a 2 bedroom house.
It completely took the shine off what should have been the happiest time of our lives, Leanne’s family were also not fully invested into the joy with concern over what would happen to the boys.
After a few emotional discussions into the early mornings, exploring all possibilities, we ultimately decided to let social services know that we cannot be considered as long term placement if needed.
At this point and to this day, their mum is still waiting on her assessment to see if they can ever be returned.
We could not abort, we could not move as we have a small amount of debt that would prevent us getting a new mortgage for a much larger house.
March 9th, we visited the midwife who dated the pregnancy from Leanne’s last recorded period December 18th. A 12 week scan was booked for 21st March however she was told that she would be 13 weeks by then.
Sickness, tender breasts, the lot, this was all very real.
The wait for the 21st March seemed like forever.
The weekend prior, Leanne had very very light spotting and discharge which freaked us both out, quick call to the midwife and told not to worry, just come in if it’s heavy bleeding and she’s in pain.
On the 20th, I had a tattoo appointment, super excited and determined to bring some positivity to a stressed out wife, I get “Daddy” inked on my neck, at the neckline of a t shirt.  I was uncontrollably excited by this point.
Next morning we go in, soon called into the Ultrasound room, I bounce in rubbing my hands joking just the one please.
Monitor boots up, Leanne laid back with the biggest smile on her face unable to see the monitor.
I look up and the gestation sac is empty.
All life inside me just melted.
The midwife asked when we last took a pregnancy test, to which Leanne responded and was then asked if she would be happy to have an internal scan.
Whilst the midwife left the room I was in a daze, taking pictures of the screens.
Internal scan complete, we was simply told to get ourselves ready and we will be shown to the counselling room.
Both in tears, we was led away and left to sit in this room for half hour or so before another midwife appeared giving us 3 options.
Let it come out naturally.
Take medication to force it out which can be super painful.
Or surgery, which is a vacuum basically which sucks it out.
Period of silence followed and we was shown out the side door, absolutely devastated.
We sat in the car park at a complete loss. I had the announcement board ready to go, bought the little lamb rattle, we had it all planned and it was over.
After an hour we went home, packed our bags and basically ran away for the weekend leaving the boys with their Nan. We couldn’t face being “parents” surrounded by toys at this time.
Work were great, signed us both off with paid leave.
The weekend was spent crying, drinking, walking, crying.
We returned Monday, still an emotional mess but able to function at least.
The hospital rang asking if we had made a decision, on Tuesday Leanne booked the surgery for the Wednesday. That Tuesday night went to visit a friend who was questioning the dates, could they be wrong, is it earlier than we think, ask for a second scan to confirm.
On looking at the scan, the gestation sac was 1D 25mm, 2D 29mm and 3D 29mm. I’m googling sac sizes at 1am and see that is 8 weeks. 5 weeks earlier than what we was told.
Leanne’s now questioning if she forgot to record a period I said look, we’ll ask for a confirmation scan to be sure.
That morning, we go into SDEC (Same day emergency care), nurse calls us in, Leanne breaks down so I take over asking for a confirmation scan. They were great and said of course, booking us in for April 2nd.
I would have declined the 1st for obvious reasons.
We’re sat here now 99% believing we’ve lost the baby, however we need that 1% of doubt clearing away with this confirmation scan on Tuesday. Even a scan at an earlier date should have shown more than just the gestation sac and yolk sac.
I’m back to work on Monday, needing some normality back in my life, although Tuesday after the scan won’t be much fun.
This week that’s just gone, Wednesday 27th, the Boys mum had her assessment heard at panel, we’re now just waiting to hear from the social services to see how that went and would they be returned or not.
We have some difficult decisions ahead if she doesn’t, as now Leanne’s “oven has been warmed”, we’re desperate more than ever for our own little baby, yet fully aware Leanne turns 40 in a couple of months and I’m 42 myself.
It really needs to happen now, or not at all. Seeing Cameron Diaz having her second at 51 years old the other week, not sure how I feel as the old you get the more our bodies begin to tire and develop issues where running after children becomes more difficult.
All family options for the boys have been exhausted, so it’s either us, their mum or adoption. Being 2 and 3 they are the prime age to be adopted yet we would never see them again and that would f’in hurt, especially if me and Leanne are not successful in having our own.
I'm sharing this as men don't like to talk and when 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage, many men will have been in similar situations and struggle in silence. Whilst the woman will ultimately bare the most pain and need the most support, it still f'in hurts....a lot.
So yeah, coming on here reading how Paul Warne is a terrible football manager, being 2nd is pure luck and all the rest of the negative hyperbole just hasn’t been at the top of the list to absorb. 
More to life than football has never been more true.
You know the old saying though, behind every successful forum owner, behind him is a team of amazing moderators. Big thanks to them for carrying the load whilst I spend time supporting the wife.

You’re not wrong that we’ve fallen at the seemingly more difficult hurdles. But we can only beat what’s in front of us, which we face fine without any significant dramas (since Iceland), and when we’ve come up against tougher opposition, we’ve hit bloody close. 
there’s an alternate timeline somewhere where Saka scored a penalty, and Kane scored a penalty, and we’re now back to back euro and World Cup winners. It’s all such ridiculously fine margins, especially in international tournament football when one bad day, one bad result, means you’re out and essentially have to wait 2 years to pick yourself back up and have another go. 

Now I have read through this thread. Amazing seeing the room and gloom after a loss compared with the positivity after a win. 

Not even read the thread, but I vote for asteroid. Or AI achieves sentience. 

You’re not wrong that we’ve fallen at the seemingly more difficult hurdles. But we can only beat what’s in front of us, which we face fine without any significant dramas (since Iceland), and when we’ve come up against tougher opposition, we’ve hit bloody close. 
there’s an alternate timeline somewhere where Saka scored a penalty, and Kane scored a penalty, and we’re now back to back euro and World Cup winners. It’s all such ridiculously fine margins, especially in international tournament football when one bad day, one bad result, means you’re out and essentially have to wait 2 years to pick yourself back up and have another go. 

Arsenal haven't won automatic promotion ever and have played in the top flight for 105 years despite it.  Houdini bothering b*******. 

For once I'd like us to avoid being Melchester Rovers in the days when Roy got fat and addicted to painkillers. 
For once it would be really nice to have it wrapped up well in advance of time without killing off fans of a nervous disposition.
Just once in my lifetime! It's not much to ask!

I think we still have a lot of good players in the squad and they will be smarting from Saturday. We all - or should I say many of us, myself included- just expected us to go on a roll after the Bolton game and cruise to automatic promotion. Well clearly there are still bumps in the road but we will get unexpected positive results as well as negative. And our opponents will drop points. We are STILL in the box seat. We need to win Friday and I'm sure we will  

Beat Blackpool on Friday and Stevenage do us a favour too.
Pboro will have a one too many games in a short period and blow it.
I actually think will get a draw at pompey.
Wins against Orient Carlisle and Cambridge
Loss against Wycombe.
13 pts
Finishing up with 91 pts

"This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper." 
 
T.S. Eliot, The Hollow Men

Those wise enough to know better can see a victory at Pompey and a defeat to Carlisle 
We have copyright on any agonising football history 

I think it's going to end with the Arab nations invading Israel and Israel, in desperation, using it's nuclear weapons causing a vast escalation leaving the world enshrined in nuclear winter for 100 years with only mutant deformed cockroaches left living, chirping to each other that the only reason they got docked 4 points was because the league is biased against them.

Four billion years from now, the increase in Earth's surface temperature will cause a runaway greenhouse effect, creating conditions more extreme than present-day Venus and heating Earth's surface enough to melt it. By that point, all life on Earth will be extinct.
 
I actually think that sounds more appealing than our perennial final inning’s collapse. Roll on oblivion. 

Despite it being impossible, as they all play each other, I expect our four promotion rivals to take maximum points from their remaining games, while we fail to pick up a single point for the remainder of the season.
We finish 6th and, despite getting our hopes back up by sneaking past Bolton in the semis, we collapse in the against Lincoln in the final at Wembley blow a 2-0 lead to lose 5-2. Sending 40,000 Derby fans home unhappy, as 378 Imps celebrate promotion on Wembley Way.
Meanwhile, Leeds and Leicester claim Automatic promotion to the Premier League, and Nottingham Forest escape relegation by a point on the final day.All three go on to finish top 10 in the following season.
In League 2, Wrexham are promoted and proceed to spend £300m to assemble to strongest third tier side of all time, meaning that recently relegated Birmingham city have to settle for second place, as the Rams miss out again and head to Wembley to eventually lose to Rotherham. (Who are by then managed by Conor Hourihane)
 

Heat death of the universe.
 
Probably just before Derby are due to be promoted.

The council could just say no out you go then.  We'll build some riverside apartments to offset our deficit and you buy some new land off us at at 50 million quid plus building costs.  Enjoy ground sharing with Mansfield.

I feel the same. When teams are haggling over £10m for a player like it’s is haggling over 50p at the market, it makes me sick. Like it’s nothing. But it would be a life changing lottery win for any normal person.
Like Trump manifesting $4b overnight. Why can’t normal people have that sort of money, or just tiny bit of it. 

Is that really a good look for the prime minister to be posing for photos with an alleged drug smuggler? What has the PM gained from that. Maybe a couple of votes from the 3 or 4 Forest fans. But when marinakis eventually gets convicted of something, these photos are bound to come back like trump and Epstein. 

When can I start singing "forest going down with a fiver in the bank"? 

When you use the term "Thereabouts" when referring to a difference of £13m, it shows just what a shiteshow football has become.
It's almost like... "£13 million?  Pfft!" 🙄
I'm struggling to fall out of love with Derby County FC, but I feckin' detest football!  

I wonder of other countries fans have gone into meltdown. 
France and Netherlands have both been beaten by  previously struggling Germany. France then later squeezed past Chile 3-2 with a deflected shot and Chile hitting the post.
Spain only drew with Brazil due to 2 soft penalties. Italy edged the might of Venezuala 2-1. 
Portugal lost 2-0 to Slovenia.
We had over half our probable starting XI missing. 
Chill out people.

Most of it is Harry Arter.