Ghost of Clough

Half time boos? Everyone here is giving Warne the season (unless we have a catastrophic start). At that point he'll have had 83 league games to get this club promoted. When you're the biggest club, with the biggest budget, failing to get promoted would be a failure, whether that's storming to the title or scraping in at 6th and winning the playoffs.
We recruited Warne as a 'L1 promotion expert'. He had 3 promotions in 3 L1 seasons with Rotherham. What do you think he expects to achieve with Derby? Would he be part of the 3% who will be happy even if we don't improve from last season? Or the 45% who'll be content with Playoff failure?

You're regurgitating the same old rubbish as many others. 
In terms of end product, Bird's end product is exactly what you expect from a holding mid in a 3 man midfield.
From open play, he was only 4 goal contributions behind Hourihane (1 more assist) despite playing as the deeper of the two.
A lot of people keep suggesting Brannagan due to his end product, yet 6 of his goals and 1 assist came from set pieces. He has fewer open play contributions than Bird (8) despite playing a role further up the pitch closer to Hourihane's. Wing is another one - 7 out of his 14 contributions came from set pieces.
Bird matched Plymouth's best CM, whilst only Morsy bettered him from Ipswich's squad (10),
I've also gone into great detail to show out 2 man midfield of Bird and Hourihane matched anything Plymouth and Ipswich had last season. Both in terms of goals/assists and defensive contributions. That's before we factor in the other midfielders who contributed when Bird and/or Hourihane weren't on the field.

You're regurgitating the same old rubbish as many others. 
In terms of end product, Bird's end product is exactly what you expect from a holding mid in a 3 man midfield.
From open play, he was only 4 goal contributions behind Hourihane (1 more assist) despite playing as the deeper of the two.
A lot of people keep suggesting Brannagan due to his end product, yet 6 of his goals and 1 assist came from set pieces. He has fewer open play contributions than Bird (8) despite playing a role further up the pitch closer to Hourihane's. Wing is another one - 7 out of his 14 contributions came from set pieces.
Bird matched Plymouth's best CM, whilst only Morsy bettered him from Ipswich's squad (10),
I've also gone into great detail to show out 2 man midfield of Bird and Hourihane matched anything Plymouth and Ipswich had last season. Both in terms of goals/assists and defensive contributions. That's before we factor in the other midfielders who contributed when Bird and/or Hourihane weren't on the field.

Half time boos? Everyone here is giving Warne the season (unless we have a catastrophic start). At that point he'll have had 83 league games to get this club promoted. When you're the biggest club, with the biggest budget, failing to get promoted would be a failure, whether that's storming to the title or scraping in at 6th and winning the playoffs.
We recruited Warne as a 'L1 promotion expert'. He had 3 promotions in 3 L1 seasons with Rotherham. What do you think he expects to achieve with Derby? Would he be part of the 3% who will be happy even if we don't improve from last season? Or the 45% who'll be content with Playoff failure?

Bird would be sorely missed, and his true value to the team will only be appreciated by many after he has gone. Much more important to keep than Knight in my opinion.

You're regurgitating the same old rubbish as many others. 
In terms of end product, Bird's end product is exactly what you expect from a holding mid in a 3 man midfield.
From open play, he was only 4 goal contributions behind Hourihane (1 more assist) despite playing as the deeper of the two.
A lot of people keep suggesting Brannagan due to his end product, yet 6 of his goals and 1 assist came from set pieces. He has fewer open play contributions than Bird (8) despite playing a role further up the pitch closer to Hourihane's. Wing is another one - 7 out of his 14 contributions came from set pieces.
Bird matched Plymouth's best CM, whilst only Morsy bettered him from Ipswich's squad (10),
I've also gone into great detail to show out 2 man midfield of Bird and Hourihane matched anything Plymouth and Ipswich had last season. Both in terms of goals/assists and defensive contributions. That's before we factor in the other midfielders who contributed when Bird and/or Hourihane weren't on the field.

You're regurgitating the same old rubbish as many others. 
In terms of end product, Bird's end product is exactly what you expect from a holding mid in a 3 man midfield.
From open play, he was only 4 goal contributions behind Hourihane (1 more assist) despite playing as the deeper of the two.
A lot of people keep suggesting Brannagan due to his end product, yet 6 of his goals and 1 assist came from set pieces. He has fewer open play contributions than Bird (8) despite playing a role further up the pitch closer to Hourihane's. Wing is another one - 7 out of his 14 contributions came from set pieces.
Bird matched Plymouth's best CM, whilst only Morsy bettered him from Ipswich's squad (10),
I've also gone into great detail to show out 2 man midfield of Bird and Hourihane matched anything Plymouth and Ipswich had last season. Both in terms of goals/assists and defensive contributions. That's before we factor in the other midfielders who contributed when Bird and/or Hourihane weren't on the field.

You're regurgitating the same old rubbish as many others. 
In terms of end product, Bird's end product is exactly what you expect from a holding mid in a 3 man midfield.
From open play, he was only 4 goal contributions behind Hourihane (1 more assist) despite playing as the deeper of the two.
A lot of people keep suggesting Brannagan due to his end product, yet 6 of his goals and 1 assist came from set pieces. He has fewer open play contributions than Bird (8) despite playing a role further up the pitch closer to Hourihane's. Wing is another one - 7 out of his 14 contributions came from set pieces.
Bird matched Plymouth's best CM, whilst only Morsy bettered him from Ipswich's squad (10),
I've also gone into great detail to show out 2 man midfield of Bird and Hourihane matched anything Plymouth and Ipswich had last season. Both in terms of goals/assists and defensive contributions. That's before we factor in the other midfielders who contributed when Bird and/or Hourihane weren't on the field.

You're regurgitating the same old rubbish as many others. 
In terms of end product, Bird's end product is exactly what you expect from a holding mid in a 3 man midfield.
From open play, he was only 4 goal contributions behind Hourihane (1 more assist) despite playing as the deeper of the two.
A lot of people keep suggesting Brannagan due to his end product, yet 6 of his goals and 1 assist came from set pieces. He has fewer open play contributions than Bird (8) despite playing a role further up the pitch closer to Hourihane's. Wing is another one - 7 out of his 14 contributions came from set pieces.
Bird matched Plymouth's best CM, whilst only Morsy bettered him from Ipswich's squad (10),
I've also gone into great detail to show out 2 man midfield of Bird and Hourihane matched anything Plymouth and Ipswich had last season. Both in terms of goals/assists and defensive contributions. That's before we factor in the other midfielders who contributed when Bird and/or Hourihane weren't on the field.

Half time boos? Everyone here is giving Warne the season (unless we have a catastrophic start). At that point he'll have had 83 league games to get this club promoted. When you're the biggest club, with the biggest budget, failing to get promoted would be a failure, whether that's storming to the title or scraping in at 6th and winning the playoffs.
We recruited Warne as a 'L1 promotion expert'. He had 3 promotions in 3 L1 seasons with Rotherham. What do you think he expects to achieve with Derby? Would he be part of the 3% who will be happy even if we don't improve from last season? Or the 45% who'll be content with Playoff failure?

Half time boos? Everyone here is giving Warne the season (unless we have a catastrophic start). At that point he'll have had 83 league games to get this club promoted. When you're the biggest club, with the biggest budget, failing to get promoted would be a failure, whether that's storming to the title or scraping in at 6th and winning the playoffs.
We recruited Warne as a 'L1 promotion expert'. He had 3 promotions in 3 L1 seasons with Rotherham. What do you think he expects to achieve with Derby? Would he be part of the 3% who will be happy even if we don't improve from last season? Or the 45% who'll be content with Playoff failure?

Having a fit Bird could potentially have made that a different record.
He does the work that is unseen by many 

Take away Hourihane's set pieces and he's on 5 assists from open play vs Bird's 6. With the addition of Ward and others still to join, Hourihane's influence over set pieces will diminish. I still believe Sibley take better corners too.
Bird is much better defensively, actually managed to assists more than Hourihane from open play in less minutes, and retains possession better.
Bird's still only 22, whislt Hourihane is 32. If we do sign another CM, as the season progresses, Hourihane's minutes should decrease as we build for the future.

Half time boos? Everyone here is giving Warne the season (unless we have a catastrophic start). At that point he'll have had 83 league games to get this club promoted. When you're the biggest club, with the biggest budget, failing to get promoted would be a failure, whether that's storming to the title or scraping in at 6th and winning the playoffs.
We recruited Warne as a 'L1 promotion expert'. He had 3 promotions in 3 L1 seasons with Rotherham. What do you think he expects to achieve with Derby? Would he be part of the 3% who will be happy even if we don't improve from last season? Or the 45% who'll be content with Playoff failure?

Half time boos? Everyone here is giving Warne the season (unless we have a catastrophic start). At that point he'll have had 83 league games to get this club promoted. When you're the biggest club, with the biggest budget, failing to get promoted would be a failure, whether that's storming to the title or scraping in at 6th and winning the playoffs.
We recruited Warne as a 'L1 promotion expert'. He had 3 promotions in 3 L1 seasons with Rotherham. What do you think he expects to achieve with Derby? Would he be part of the 3% who will be happy even if we don't improve from last season? Or the 45% who'll be content with Playoff failure?

My own thoughts is that if Warne and Thomas swing and miss this season, finishing outside the playoffs considering the budget available to them in comparison to other teams at this level - it makes their employment untenable. 
I have absolutely faith that won’t be an issue. Expectation should be top 2, the playoffs are a fail safe option as we could still win promotion from them. Ultimately it has to be promotion. 

Take away Hourihane's set pieces and he's on 5 assists from open play vs Bird's 6. With the addition of Ward and others still to join, Hourihane's influence over set pieces will diminish. I still believe Sibley take better corners too.
Bird is much better defensively, actually managed to assists more than Hourihane from open play in less minutes, and retains possession better.
Bird's still only 22, whislt Hourihane is 32. If we do sign another CM, as the season progresses, Hourihane's minutes should decrease as we build for the future.

Anyone joining the club should expect to make an improvement on a 7th place finish from last season. Their views will be aligned with the fans/voters, as shown by 97% expecting playoffs at the very minimum. They should all be determined enough to expect promotion too. If they don't think they're good enough to win promotion from this division then they shouldn't be joining us.

Anyone joining the club should expect to make an improvement on a 7th place finish from last season. Their views will be aligned with the fans/voters, as shown by 97% expecting playoffs at the very minimum. They should all be determined enough to expect promotion too. If they don't think they're good enough to win promotion from this division then they shouldn't be joining us.

Anyone joining the club should expect to make an improvement on a 7th place finish from last season. Their views will be aligned with the fans/voters, as shown by 97% expecting playoffs at the very minimum. They should all be determined enough to expect promotion too. If they don't think they're good enough to win promotion from this division then they shouldn't be joining us.

Take away Hourihane's set pieces and he's on 5 assists from open play vs Bird's 6. With the addition of Ward and others still to join, Hourihane's influence over set pieces will diminish. I still believe Sibley take better corners too.
Bird is much better defensively, actually managed to assists more than Hourihane from open play in less minutes, and retains possession better.
Bird's still only 22, whislt Hourihane is 32. If we do sign another CM, as the season progresses, Hourihane's minutes should decrease as we build for the future.

Take away Hourihane's set pieces and he's on 5 assists from open play vs Bird's 6. With the addition of Ward and others still to join, Hourihane's influence over set pieces will diminish. I still believe Sibley take better corners too.
Bird is much better defensively, actually managed to assists more than Hourihane from open play in less minutes, and retains possession better.
Bird's still only 22, whislt Hourihane is 32. If we do sign another CM, as the season progresses, Hourihane's minutes should decrease as we build for the future.

Take away Hourihane's set pieces and he's on 5 assists from open play vs Bird's 6. With the addition of Ward and others still to join, Hourihane's influence over set pieces will diminish. I still believe Sibley take better corners too.
Bird is much better defensively, actually managed to assists more than Hourihane from open play in less minutes, and retains possession better.
Bird's still only 22, whislt Hourihane is 32. If we do sign another CM, as the season progresses, Hourihane's minutes should decrease as we build for the future.

Take away Hourihane's set pieces and he's on 5 assists from open play vs Bird's 6. With the addition of Ward and others still to join, Hourihane's influence over set pieces will diminish. I still believe Sibley take better corners too.
Bird is much better defensively, actually managed to assists more than Hourihane from open play in less minutes, and retains possession better.
Bird's still only 22, whislt Hourihane is 32. If we do sign another CM, as the season progresses, Hourihane's minutes should decrease as we build for the future.

He's runs around a lot so fits into what Warne wants?