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The point isn't whether he is a disgrace or not, it's that we're not in a position to actually know.  We have no idea what advice he's been giving Mel, what decisions he's made himself, what decisions have been made against his advice and so on. I'm not saying don't criticise (hell I've been very critical of the lot of them on here), I'm just saying there's no point singling out individual members of a group when the only info we have is decisions that have been made collectively by that group.  
We do know that the actual accountancy decisions (amortisation, stadium sale etc) have either been signed off by the EFL (the stadium), or are so debatable (amortisation) that every independent accountant that's looked at them (including the on on the disciplinary commission) thought they were fine.

The point isn't whether he is a disgrace or not, it's that we're not in a position to actually know.  We have no idea what advice he's been giving Mel, what decisions he's made himself, what decisions have been made against his advice and so on. I'm not saying don't criticise (hell I've been very critical of the lot of them on here), I'm just saying there's no point singling out individual members of a group when the only info we have is decisions that have been made collectively by that group.  
We do know that the actual accountancy decisions (amortisation, stadium sale etc) have either been signed off by the EFL (the stadium), or are so debatable (amortisation) that every independent accountant that's looked at them (including the on on the disciplinary commission) thought they were fine.

I see criticising Stephen Pearce in the same way I see people criticising individual members of the coaching staff.  None of us know exactly what their job description is, what specific instructions they've been given from higher-ups, what constraints they're operating under and so on, so there's no real point criticising individual members. We have no real metric to measure their job performance against.  You've just got to treat the management collectively (both the football side and the boardroom side) and direct any blame at the boss IMO.

The point isn't whether he is a disgrace or not, it's that we're not in a position to actually know.  We have no idea what advice he's been giving Mel, what decisions he's made himself, what decisions have been made against his advice and so on. I'm not saying don't criticise (hell I've been very critical of the lot of them on here), I'm just saying there's no point singling out individual members of a group when the only info we have is decisions that have been made collectively by that group.  
We do know that the actual accountancy decisions (amortisation, stadium sale etc) have either been signed off by the EFL (the stadium), or are so debatable (amortisation) that every independent accountant that's looked at them (including the on on the disciplinary commission) thought they were fine.

The point isn't whether he is a disgrace or not, it's that we're not in a position to actually know.  We have no idea what advice he's been giving Mel, what decisions he's made himself, what decisions have been made against his advice and so on. I'm not saying don't criticise (hell I've been very critical of the lot of them on here), I'm just saying there's no point singling out individual members of a group when the only info we have is decisions that have been made collectively by that group.  
We do know that the actual accountancy decisions (amortisation, stadium sale etc) have either been signed off by the EFL (the stadium), or are so debatable (amortisation) that every independent accountant that's looked at them (including the on on the disciplinary commission) thought they were fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

I see criticising Stephen Pearce in the same way I see people criticising individual members of the coaching staff.  None of us know exactly what their job description is, what specific instructions they've been given from higher-ups, what constraints they're operating under and so on, so there's no real point criticising individual members. We have no real metric to measure their job performance against.  You've just got to treat the management collectively (both the football side and the boardroom side) and direct any blame at the boss IMO.

I see criticising Stephen Pearce in the same way I see people criticising individual members of the coaching staff.  None of us know exactly what their job description is, what specific instructions they've been given from higher-ups, what constraints they're operating under and so on, so there's no real point criticising individual members. We have no real metric to measure their job performance against.  You've just got to treat the management collectively (both the football side and the boardroom side) and direct any blame at the boss IMO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Poorly disguised "I got laid" post IMO...
Also congratulations, obviously ?

You ever seen the photos that North Korea release from time to time? Everyone's smiling in those too. Just saying... ?

You ever seen the photos that North Korea release from time to time? Everyone's smiling in those too. Just saying... ?

Worked a treat Thankyou 

The only explanation I can think of, is that while he really wants a team full of academy lads, he genuinely has no idea how to actually make it happen. The Scott Malone signing just epitomised the whole thing for me.  We had 2 promising youngsters who were on the verge of the first team (Lowe and Buchanan) and an aging, injury-prone Forsyth.  If we genuinely didn't think Lowe or Buchanan were quite ready yet, or we wanted some more reliable experienced cover there (in case Forsyth got injured again), then either get a loan in or sign someone like Byrne (relatively cheap, shortish contract etc). What you don't do is spend £3.5m and prem wages on a very average player who's not going to improve the team and just sit there burning wages and blocking the academy lads.  
The problem isn't directly down the recruitment, the managers, the academy lads themselves etc, it's a lack of vision (and the nous to implement it) from the very top.  If we genuinely wanted a team full of academy lads it should be club policy to not sign old players on big money/long contracts, to not sign expensive players where we have academy lads on the verge of breaking through, to not appoint managers that only want a team full of experienced players and so on.  You can't just throw money at the academy and expect it to work.
Mel's whole "I'm not a boss who says no" schtick (in regards to managers wanting signings) just reminds of a parent who can't say no to their child wanting sweets.  It's literally your job to say no.  Tell the manager he can't have that new left back because he already has 2 promising ones coming through. And if the manager doesn't like it, get a different manager who does.

You see a lot of football fans who like to watch the game but seem to have no actual understanding of it at all. The kind of person that would say things like "Bradley Johnson is great, let's sign him", "Clough should never have sold Shackell", "We haven't had a decent right back since Wisdom left", "Blackman is top of the scoring charts, let's buy him", "Wayne Rooney is still a great player", "Nigel Pearson did a great job at Leicester, he'd be great here too".  It honestly feels like we're being run by one of those types.

You see a lot of football fans who like to watch the game but seem to have no actual understanding of it at all. The kind of person that would say things like "Bradley Johnson is great, let's sign him", "Clough should never have sold Shackell", "We haven't had a decent right back since Wisdom left", "Blackman is top of the scoring charts, let's buy him", "Wayne Rooney is still a great player", "Nigel Pearson did a great job at Leicester, he'd be great here too".  It honestly feels like we're being run by one of those types.

You ever seen the photos that North Korea release from time to time? Everyone's smiling in those too. Just saying... ?

You ever seen the photos that North Korea release from time to time? Everyone's smiling in those too. Just saying... ?

You ever seen the photos that North Korea release from time to time? Everyone's smiling in those too. Just saying... ?

You ever seen the photos that North Korea release from time to time? Everyone's smiling in those too. Just saying... ?

You ever seen the photos that North Korea release from time to time? Everyone's smiling in those too. Just saying... ?

You ever seen the photos that North Korea release from time to time? Everyone's smiling in those too. Just saying... ?

You see a lot of football fans who like to watch the game but seem to have no actual understanding of it at all. The kind of person that would say things like "Bradley Johnson is great, let's sign him", "Clough should never have sold Shackell", "We haven't had a decent right back since Wisdom left", "Blackman is top of the scoring charts, let's buy him", "Wayne Rooney is still a great player", "Nigel Pearson did a great job at Leicester, he'd be great here too".  It honestly feels like we're being run by one of those types.

You ever seen the photos that North Korea release from time to time? Everyone's smiling in those too. Just saying... ?