RAM1966

Imo our amortisation policy was due solely to kicking the can down the road in the hope we could get promoted and avoid penalties

Three classic comments from the interview:
1) My putting the Club into Adminstration gives it a better chance of finding a Purchaser it desperately needs. Mmmh. Really not sure it does Mel. Let’s be honest it is much more the case that you are simply not prepared to put any more money into the club, notwithstanding you are still comfortably in the top 500 richest people in the UK.
2) No one can continue to put money into the club (£3m pm, down to £1.5m pm more recently) in perpetuity. Mmmh. I wonder who created the income/expenditure imbalance and indebtedness? Any ideas Mel?
3) I’ve been prepared to sell the club for £15m less than I bought it for. Mmmh. Did the club have a Stadium and a decent team when you bought it Mel?
I have had little time for this guy since around 2016, and today he confirmed all my worst fears.

I think I'm going to give it a listen - however I reserve the right to not believe a single word that Mel says.....

From the interview that was shared on here a few months back we need Mrs Appleby to start the sort of relentless never-ending campaign that only a wife can on a husband! 

I didn't and I wouldn't, a great result today, I notice there are not many Mel supporters left.  Thankfully he did stay away today, we've been lied to and he has destroyed our club.   We just have to hope and pray that someone such as Andy Appleby comes along with some investors and clears the mess up again!!!!!!!!!

The players went out today knowing a -12 was the minimum and played their hearts out..

Great game today. From my seat behind the goal in the North Stand I was treated to two goals.
The flight of Bird’s strike left the keeper rooted to the spot and in an effort to redeem himself he flew out and was then completely bamboozled by Curtis’s nod on.
From a physiological point of view a I think we can survive 12 but 21 is totally different.
12 gives us something to fight for and the players will dig in but if it’s 21 they’ll start thinking if it’s worth putting their bodies on the line for a lost cause.
I wonder how many is too much psychological speaking. 
 
 

Well my comments were deleted, I was even banned for a month to silence me........
Where are all the Mel Supporters now?
One mans vanity project has gone badly wrong, someone close has told me the arrogance and unwillingness to listen to people is the reason why DCFC is in the mess we are in.
Mel - Do not show up later today, you are not welcome and I will along with others show my distain for you.  ?
 
 

Here's a photo of my season ticket from 50 seasons ago (1971-72). It cost £6.20. I think it was my 3rd or 4th S/T.
Of course, this season marks the 50th Anniversary of Brian Clough's title-winning team. Some anniversary, eh?
I haven't yet received this season's S/T card. No explanation given...
Apparently, DCFC asserted that they are being issued on 30th September. I paid for it well over a year ago, carried forward due to Covid.... I think it cost £292 (yep I'm a Senior, of course). 
Thank ---k I have the memories. Won't be holding my breath for the postman at the end of the month.
 

Show your distain all you want, just don't do it during the match. 
This news will affect the players and staff and we need to get behind the team more than ever today. 
Morris has put us where we are, but he's on his way now and any form of protest will not help get new owners in.

Well my comments were deleted, I was even banned for a month to silence me........
Where are all the Mel Supporters now?
One mans vanity project has gone badly wrong, someone close has told me the arrogance and unwillingness to listen to people is the reason why DCFC is in the mess we are in.
Mel - Do not show up later today, you are not welcome and I will along with others show my distain for you.  ?
 
 

Well my comments were deleted, I was even banned for a month to silence me........
Where are all the Mel Supporters now?
One mans vanity project has gone badly wrong, someone close has told me the arrogance and unwillingness to listen to people is the reason why DCFC is in the mess we are in.
Mel - Do not show up later today, you are not welcome and I will along with others show my distain for you.  ?
 
 

Well my comments were deleted, I was even banned for a month to silence me........
Where are all the Mel Supporters now?
One mans vanity project has gone badly wrong, someone close has told me the arrogance and unwillingness to listen to people is the reason why DCFC is in the mess we are in.
Mel - Do not show up later today, you are not welcome and I will along with others show my distain for you.  ?
 
 

Well my comments were deleted, I was even banned for a month to silence me........
Where are all the Mel Supporters now?
One mans vanity project has gone badly wrong, someone close has told me the arrogance and unwillingness to listen to people is the reason why DCFC is in the mess we are in.
Mel - Do not show up later today, you are not welcome and I will along with others show my distain for you.  ?
 
 

Well my comments were deleted, I was even banned for a month to silence me........
Where are all the Mel Supporters now?
One mans vanity project has gone badly wrong, someone close has told me the arrogance and unwillingness to listen to people is the reason why DCFC is in the mess we are in.
Mel - Do not show up later today, you are not welcome and I will along with others show my distain for you.  ?
 
 

Sad night for the employees,some decent people work for the club.

Mel Morris is one of the worst things to ever happen to this club. He has doomed us.

Whether the guide has been removed or not, our 'alleged' offences were over the same 3 year FFP P&S period as Sheff Wed and therefore they should use the same guidelines for us.   
I also find that there is no indefinite period for this to go on is nothing short of holding a gun to Mels head.  I think he may just tell the EFL to GTF and go down the disciplinary route.   My understanding of Mel is that he is very headstrong and often will not take advice from those around him.  I'm guessing that is why we are in the complete mess we are in.....
I would not be in the slightest bit surprised if Mel just tells the EFL to go down the disciplinary route if the punishment is not going to be capped at 3 - 6points..... 
One final point - This can't be a punishment for the amortisation of players as we've already been punished £100K for that, it must be to do with the way that the accounts have been resubmitted and the EFL have another p*ssy on, because we presented them again in a legal way of accounting practices that the non-financially trained EFL do not like.....  Tough they should accept it and just close the loop and give clear direction on how amortisation of players should recorded.
Part of me hopes that Mel does take them on no matter how long it takes, then sue them, should we lose our Championship status, after wrongly hounding us for the last 18 months.  Other clubs including Boro have done similar things with zero comeback, yet Derby seem to ne the whipping boys, as someone has said because of the TV deal.....

Whether the guide has been removed or not, our 'alleged' offences were over the same 3 year FFP P&S period as Sheff Wed and therefore they should use the same guidelines for us.   
I also find that there is no indefinite period for this to go on is nothing short of holding a gun to Mels head.  I think he may just tell the EFL to GTF and go down the disciplinary route.   My understanding of Mel is that he is very headstrong and often will not take advice from those around him.  I'm guessing that is why we are in the complete mess we are in.....
I would not be in the slightest bit surprised if Mel just tells the EFL to go down the disciplinary route if the punishment is not going to be capped at 3 - 6points..... 
One final point - This can't be a punishment for the amortisation of players as we've already been punished £100K for that, it must be to do with the way that the accounts have been resubmitted and the EFL have another p*ssy on, because we presented them again in a legal way of accounting practices that the non-financially trained EFL do not like.....  Tough they should accept it and just close the loop and give clear direction on how amortisation of players should recorded.
Part of me hopes that Mel does take them on no matter how long it takes, then sue them, should we lose our Championship status, after wrongly hounding us for the last 18 months.  Other clubs including Boro have done similar things with zero comeback, yet Derby seem to ne the whipping boys, as someone has said because of the TV deal.....

Whether the guide has been removed or not, our 'alleged' offences were over the same 3 year FFP P&S period as Sheff Wed and therefore they should use the same guidelines for us.   
I also find that there is no indefinite period for this to go on is nothing short of holding a gun to Mels head.  I think he may just tell the EFL to GTF and go down the disciplinary route.   My understanding of Mel is that he is very headstrong and often will not take advice from those around him.  I'm guessing that is why we are in the complete mess we are in.....
I would not be in the slightest bit surprised if Mel just tells the EFL to go down the disciplinary route if the punishment is not going to be capped at 3 - 6points..... 
One final point - This can't be a punishment for the amortisation of players as we've already been punished £100K for that, it must be to do with the way that the accounts have been resubmitted and the EFL have another p*ssy on, because we presented them again in a legal way of accounting practices that the non-financially trained EFL do not like.....  Tough they should accept it and just close the loop and give clear direction on how amortisation of players should recorded.
Part of me hopes that Mel does take them on no matter how long it takes, then sue them, should we lose our Championship status, after wrongly hounding us for the last 18 months.  Other clubs including Boro have done similar things with zero comeback, yet Derby seem to ne the whipping boys, as someone has said because of the TV deal.....

Whether the guide has been removed or not, our 'alleged' offences were over the same 3 year FFP P&S period as Sheff Wed and therefore they should use the same guidelines for us.   
I also find that there is no indefinite period for this to go on is nothing short of holding a gun to Mels head.  I think he may just tell the EFL to GTF and go down the disciplinary route.   My understanding of Mel is that he is very headstrong and often will not take advice from those around him.  I'm guessing that is why we are in the complete mess we are in.....
I would not be in the slightest bit surprised if Mel just tells the EFL to go down the disciplinary route if the punishment is not going to be capped at 3 - 6points..... 
One final point - This can't be a punishment for the amortisation of players as we've already been punished £100K for that, it must be to do with the way that the accounts have been resubmitted and the EFL have another p*ssy on, because we presented them again in a legal way of accounting practices that the non-financially trained EFL do not like.....  Tough they should accept it and just close the loop and give clear direction on how amortisation of players should recorded.
Part of me hopes that Mel does take them on no matter how long it takes, then sue them, should we lose our Championship status, after wrongly hounding us for the last 18 months.  Other clubs including Boro have done similar things with zero comeback, yet Derby seem to ne the whipping boys, as someone has said because of the TV deal.....

Whether the guide has been removed or not, our 'alleged' offences were over the same 3 year FFP P&S period as Sheff Wed and therefore they should use the same guidelines for us.   
I also find that there is no indefinite period for this to go on is nothing short of holding a gun to Mels head.  I think he may just tell the EFL to GTF and go down the disciplinary route.   My understanding of Mel is that he is very headstrong and often will not take advice from those around him.  I'm guessing that is why we are in the complete mess we are in.....
I would not be in the slightest bit surprised if Mel just tells the EFL to go down the disciplinary route if the punishment is not going to be capped at 3 - 6points..... 
One final point - This can't be a punishment for the amortisation of players as we've already been punished £100K for that, it must be to do with the way that the accounts have been resubmitted and the EFL have another p*ssy on, because we presented them again in a legal way of accounting practices that the non-financially trained EFL do not like.....  Tough they should accept it and just close the loop and give clear direction on how amortisation of players should recorded.
Part of me hopes that Mel does take them on no matter how long it takes, then sue them, should we lose our Championship status, after wrongly hounding us for the last 18 months.  Other clubs including Boro have done similar things with zero comeback, yet Derby seem to ne the whipping boys, as someone has said because of the TV deal.....

Any question that starts "do we know for certain" is going to result in a "no" answer at the moment.
We don't know what the discussion is about, and honestly, whether we've broken the rules and what punishment we might be due aren't entirely separate things.  If we're still arguing over exactly what amortization models are allowed, then the answer to that question will determine the extent of any overspend, and hence the extent of any punishment.

great post

If the EFL had a cast iron, watertight case they would slap us with a points deduction immediately and dare us to appeal it. They haven't done that, which could indicate that they aren't entirely sure.
On the other hand, if we were totally bang to rights and had a 0% chance of winning an appeal we would take whatever was on offer and just get this over with.