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    Curtains reacted to Comrade 86 in EFL Verdict   
    Why are some folk so unable, unwilling or both, to assimilate a few simple facts concerning these charges? It's no small wonder that fans from other clubs have a poor opinion of us now, when some of our own fans, who ought to be better informed, are themselves the first to jump on any sniff of perceived wrongdoing. What possible benefit is there in wilfully ignoring what we know to be true in favour presupposing guilt at every corner? We've even got folk using the fact that we've not submitted the new accounts inside 48 hours as the latest stick with which to thrash the club. It simply beggars belief.
    For the umpteenth time, there were two charges; one related to the valuation of our stadium and was summarily dismissed by the DC; the other related to our amortisation policy which was signed off on and approved under legal accounting standards by independent auditors, the auditors regulatory body, the DC and the ducking EFL themselves, the latter several times over a period of years. The amortisation policy charge was also initially dismissed by the DC for the aforementioned reasons. This left the EFL so desperate to save face that they appealed the decision, the outcome of which was predicted by myself and numerous others on this very thread: a small fine in order to secure the token win they need to maintain any ducking credibility at all AND NO POINTS DEDUCTION. 
    At this point, I very much doubt that even the EFL will be willing to risk further embarrassment. They can kid themselves this paltry fine vindicates two years of unwarranted charges and appeals and get back to their principal role as lapdogs to Sky and the Premiership whilst paying themselves inflated salaries for doing so. As for the DC, I strongly suspect that they only agreed to what is a nominal fine in order to save the EFL from falling into further disrepute and to allow us to finally emerge from under an endless series of unfair and damaging embargos and to prevent the EFL from continuing what has become a spiteful and unwarranted campaign against a club whose chairman quite rightly questioned their business acumen. In doing so, they have vindicated Mel's opinion in spades, though the crushing irony of this has unsurprisingly escaped the EFL's notice and who will doubtless be celebrating spending millions to secure a £100k fine for their members' coffers.
    If, as I strongly suspect, the EFL do not appeal this sanction, I think we will 'be the bigger man' and simply take the £100k hit in order to allow us to return to football matters rather than spending every waking hour addressing the embittered ramblings and actions of a so-called professional body that seems more intent on undermining its membership than serving it. 
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    Curtains reacted to BramcoteRam84 in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Just pointing out that P&S didn’t exist then. Owners could do what they like. If this was the 90s/early00s none of this would be going on, battles with the EFL, selling stadiums etc. We’d just have an owner doing his best to keep us afloat in a Covid world 
     
     
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    Curtains got a reaction from RAM1966 in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Noticed some people having a go .
    We are Derby fans and we should stick together and back the Club 
    Its easy to be derogatory about the owners in this situation but the real enemy is the EFL 
    They are an absolute joke of an institution and don’t get me started on Steve Gibson and Wycombe Wanderers
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    Curtains got a reaction from Archied in EFL Verdict   
    We never broke the rules .
    You are really getting up my nose .
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    Curtains reacted to plymouthram in EFL Verdict   
    We were fined £100k by an independent panel that was appointed by the EFL on the value of amortisation on the players. Which in their eyes meant, they did not agree on the valuation figures. On the very first panel we were cleared on all accounts, so the EFL appealed and had this latest panel (picked by them, and I read somewhere that this panel did not have a finance/lawyer involved). They could not touch us on the sale value of Pride Park. I think that once the season is completed, there cannot be any adjustment of teams points. So I see this has a witch hunt about it and appeasement to make Wycombe and other teams feel good.
    The disgrace comes in, on the fact we are looking at the clubs accounting for 2017/18 and 19 seasons. All the accounts for each season were submitted at the end of each season to the EFL which they accepted. The EFL waited until 2020 to lay a charge after constant nagging pressure from a chairman of another Championship team. The EFL have moved the goalposts several times with their rules and regulations and still they get it wrong. Good accounting and shifting of assets is done in lots of companies and not just football clubs.
    I feel the panel were under pressure to please the EFL, hence the £100k fine and asking for the accounts to be resubmitted. Giving us a date of the 18th August means the EFL would have a hard job to give us a points deduction on last season when a new season would be already underway. We would also then have rights to appeal, which would then take months of process. By then the season would be into Christmas time or beyond. Yes the EFL are a disgrace, they accepted our accounts every end of season, they wait another year with FFP accounts charge (including the sale of Pride Park). We win the case, then they appeal, set up a new panel and they won't let go.  We were fined on a valuation accounting of amortisation on players not a rule, but a disagreement of our accounting valuation.  YES THEY ARE A DISGRACE
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    Curtains reacted to Tamworthram in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    I take i back. It seems you were right. 
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    Curtains got a reaction from Gee SCREAMER !! in EFL Verdict   
    We never broke the rules .
    You are really getting up my nose .
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    Curtains got a reaction from Reggie Greenwood in EFL Verdict   
    What you on about .
    We haven’t broken any rules .
    We are not guilty for goodness sake. 
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    Curtains got a reaction from mwram1973 in EFL Verdict   
    What you on about .
    We haven’t broken any rules .
    We are not guilty for goodness sake. 
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    Curtains got a reaction from Ted McMinn Football Genius in EFL Verdict   
    What you on about .
    We haven’t broken any rules .
    We are not guilty for goodness sake. 
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    Curtains got a reaction from Ted McMinn Football Genius in EFL Verdict   
    We never broke the rules .
    You are really getting up my nose .
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    Curtains reacted to MuespachRam in EFL Verdict   
    I really don’t see why the EFL are a disgrace, we “bent” the rules, I think we would all agree we broke a number of rules. Therefore we should take whatever punishment they want to dish out. I think only one party is a disgrace and it’s Derby County Football Club. 
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    Curtains reacted to NottsRam77 in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Well we can’t blame keogh anymore … so why not 
    Joking joking, Iv stated previously my thoughts on Mel 
    feel sad for him and us as to how his best endeavours have turned out 
     
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    Curtains got a reaction from JoetheRam in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Noticed some people having a go .
    We are Derby fans and we should stick together and back the Club 
    Its easy to be derogatory about the owners in this situation but the real enemy is the EFL 
    They are an absolute joke of an institution and don’t get me started on Steve Gibson and Wycombe Wanderers
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    Curtains got a reaction from mike93rh in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Noticed some people having a go .
    We are Derby fans and we should stick together and back the Club 
    Its easy to be derogatory about the owners in this situation but the real enemy is the EFL 
    They are an absolute joke of an institution and don’t get me started on Steve Gibson and Wycombe Wanderers
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    Curtains got a reaction from Red_Dawn in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Noticed some people having a go .
    We are Derby fans and we should stick together and back the Club 
    Its easy to be derogatory about the owners in this situation but the real enemy is the EFL 
    They are an absolute joke of an institution and don’t get me started on Steve Gibson and Wycombe Wanderers
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    Curtains got a reaction from Sheikh n Bake in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Remember fans applauded MM for sticking up for Derby. Those same fans having a go now. 
     
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    Curtains got a reaction from 1967Ram in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Noticed some people having a go .
    We are Derby fans and we should stick together and back the Club 
    Its easy to be derogatory about the owners in this situation but the real enemy is the EFL 
    They are an absolute joke of an institution and don’t get me started on Steve Gibson and Wycombe Wanderers
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    Curtains got a reaction from GenBr in EFL Verdict   
    Do we have to play a game in the Championship and a game in League 1 on the same day .
    Could be 2 away trips on the same day for us an Wycombe.
    Should be fun lol ? 
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    Curtains got a reaction from Indyram in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Noticed some people having a go .
    We are Derby fans and we should stick together and back the Club 
    Its easy to be derogatory about the owners in this situation but the real enemy is the EFL 
    They are an absolute joke of an institution and don’t get me started on Steve Gibson and Wycombe Wanderers
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    Curtains got a reaction from GenBr in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Noticed some people having a go .
    We are Derby fans and we should stick together and back the Club 
    Its easy to be derogatory about the owners in this situation but the real enemy is the EFL 
    They are an absolute joke of an institution and don’t get me started on Steve Gibson and Wycombe Wanderers
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    Curtains got a reaction from jono in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Noticed some people having a go .
    We are Derby fans and we should stick together and back the Club 
    Its easy to be derogatory about the owners in this situation but the real enemy is the EFL 
    They are an absolute joke of an institution and don’t get me started on Steve Gibson and Wycombe Wanderers
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    Curtains got a reaction from Ellafella in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Noticed some people having a go .
    We are Derby fans and we should stick together and back the Club 
    Its easy to be derogatory about the owners in this situation but the real enemy is the EFL 
    They are an absolute joke of an institution and don’t get me started on Steve Gibson and Wycombe Wanderers
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    Curtains got a reaction from r_wilcockson in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Noticed some people having a go .
    We are Derby fans and we should stick together and back the Club 
    Its easy to be derogatory about the owners in this situation but the real enemy is the EFL 
    They are an absolute joke of an institution and don’t get me started on Steve Gibson and Wycombe Wanderers
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    Curtains got a reaction from jimtastic56 in Please don’t blame Morris and Pearce.   
    Remember fans applauded MM for sticking up for Derby. Those same fans having a go now. 
     
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