Curtains

You should be ashamed of yourself Curtains. To be honest, I blame you nearly as much as I blame for Mel Morris for our predicament.

Oooh get you and your fancy words! ?

This 100 percent.  
Derby Fans have no blame whatsoever.
The men at the helm are to blame no question plus EFL intransigence 

Nah, I'm not having this. 
We were told we were right on the line after most of the extravagant spending. Every penny counted. 
Derby fans did not encourage gambling, did not encourage spending what Mel could not afford or have the details on wages and fees paid. There is no blame on Derby fans for that. 

If this does prove to be correct it could help us..
We can build a league 1 squad in January, sell those that won't fancy it or will be priced out of our revised budgets..we can land in League 1 running..it doesn't often work that way with teams relegated on the last day and having to react and plan in 6 weeks..

Well I wouldn’t say you got sucked in mate. 
 
I suppose the point about being positive still stands and maybe the strategy of accepting the points deduction is the reality if the takeover needs to be done and dusted quickly.
We will see what transpires 

 
 

I’m afraid they have been telling us what we wanted to hear. 
Let hope with this points deduction a takeover can proceed quickly 

I’m afraid they have been telling us what we wanted to hear. 
Let hope with this points deduction a takeover can proceed quickly 

This is the worst possible outcome but we just have to move on as fans and hope we survive as a club .
 
The administrators have been far too optimistic IMO from day one .
Who knows what will happen next ! 
 
Hopefully a takeover is imminent 

Maybe the Athletic are right. 
 
15 points deduction in Total !

The way that's worded sounds like the administrators have done a deal to cancel the administration points appeal on the understanding that we will get a lighter sanction on the other charges.
Sounds as phoney as a glass eye and a lose lose scenario for us.

This is dodgy as duck. 
My guess is that the administrators have delayed the appeal process, based on a favourable outcome with the EFL from the FFP sanctions. I would think a successful administrative appeal would cause chaos that the EFL don’t want, considering the amount of clubs who potentially could go down the same administration route knowing a points deduction may not be imposed, so have done a deal to ease off on the FFP providing we ease off with our administration appeal.

Well it’s going to be back to talking it through with the EFL again and coming to an agreement on points to be docked it total. 

The latter I’d say 

There must have been some sort of agreement ?

I think it probably means we are close to agreeing an overall deal with EFL over the penalties to be applied for entering admin and for FFP combined. And so by consent we would then withdraw the appeal.. meaning the total penalty for both combined will be at least 12 points.  

We’re down already. Only chance we have is if the gap is down to seven points maximum by January.
But if anything, it looks like it will be bigger.
We needed at least midtable form to have a chance. But we’re in relegation form regardless of the points deduction.

What a task .
Almost insurmountable 

What a task .
Almost insurmountable 

A window on the future. Up the Ra   ms. We are in the frame for the drop. Curtains. At times we look a com pleat mess. Our forwards are so often hemmed in. We have all on to selvage this season. We must pull ourselves together soon.
 

Them are a bit crappy lol ? 

How can teams have bad training days !

If so, shall we move onto the next game?
We are all disappointed in the last couple of games, but having read about sacking Rooney, players not caring, players giving up, our recruitment is awful, we are definitely down  even down without a points reduction in the last 24 hours, it's time to regroup and be realistic.
Rooney wasn't the best manager in the Championship 4 games ago and he isn't the worst now. What we do have is a thin squad mainly made up of veterans and youngsters. We started yesterday's game with half of our outfield players aged 34 to 39. With the new manager bounce they played a high tempo and we got overrun. We look tired and are ready for the international break. 
Are we going down? We are certainly up against it. There are so many variables, admin points appeals, ffp appeals and takeovers and that's before we get to what happens on the pitch. I think the players are giving their all and until the Blackburn game, so were the fans. These are trying times and we need to stick together and stay optimistic. We need to still be in the fight when the New Year comes. By then we should know more about points deductions, new owners and transfer capabilities. 
If we get deducted 21 points, there is little hope, but we can't give up yet. Every point is vital and every fans support is too. I hope that our fans recent negativity doesn't transmit to the games. so let's all dust ourselves down and keep supporting our great club as best we can. 
I don't know if we can manage this great escape but if we do, it will take the collective will of all of us.  

I was a bit surprised he said it, but I did wonder whether there's been a bit of horsing around from some players? I know Waghorn got into a bit of trouble about that with Wayne before, didn't he? 
Weather was crap too, maybe one or two just going through the motions. It does happen.
As one of the senior players, I would expect Davies to lead by example. If that involves a general gee up to the offenders through going public, then so be it. He didn't dig out any individuals but they'll know who they are.
 

I know I’m coming across badly in this thread.
To be honest Angie I care about my Football team but I just don’t think Curtis should have remarked about 2 bad training days 
What was he implying.