Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Personally, I think we have a few who aren't ever going to be regulars and a bloated squad with pissed off players is a recipe for disaster. Could we tempt Charlton into a player swap. Perhaps Bradley would like a year or two in Carlisle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Big Trav said: Warne watching Owen Moxon at Carlisle Absolutely certain on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 https://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/2023/july/manager-the-conversations-are-ongoing/ No clue as what club made the offer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I know you can’t pick up on everyone out there but qe seem hopeless at picking up on any decent player before they break through and start commanding fees… Is this cos PW is more interested in established players , or is it that our scouting/recruitment team are short-sighted/useless ? Or just that priorities tight now are to get out of this league asap and the view is this is no time to be taking risks ? What younger players we have brought in over the last 18 months don’t really seem to be getting a sniff at first team football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, caymanram said: I know you can’t pick up on everyone out there but qe seem hopeless at picking up on any decent player before they break through and start commanding fees… Is this cos PW is more interested in established players , or is it that our scouting/recruitment team are short-sighted/useless ? Or just that priorities tight now are to get out of this league asap and the view is this is no time to be taking risks ? What younger players we have brought in over the last 18 months don’t really seem to be getting a sniff at first team football. How can you blame Paul Warne for this when we haven’t spent a fee since he’s been here? LazloW and Norman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, Srg said: How can you blame Paul Warne for this when we haven’t spent a fee since he’s been here? There are plenty of non-league players in the same position as the other established players we signed on ‘frees’…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, caymanram said: There are plenty of non-league players in the same position as the other established players we signed on ‘frees’…. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. You’re saying Warne should have used the zero transfer money he has spent on signing the absolutely best that non-league has to offer? (Which, by the way, no other transfer genius has done in the same time). How is that possible? Over the longest period Derby absolutely do seem to never unearth the gem and always end up paying the finders the fee. Likely due to competing at the sharp end of the table and that gamble is exactly that, a perceived gamble over a more established (and expensive) name. We should have had better scouts and transfer policy, absolutely. Even moreso in hindsight. But to level it at Warne right now? Not having it. LazloW, FlyBritishMidland, Tamworthram and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, caymanram said: There are plenty of non-league players in the same position as the other established players we signed on ‘frees’…. Even non-league players command a fee, if they're under contract or under 24. We even had to pay non-league Worcester City about 15k for Roger Davies in the 70s, something that could not have done over the last few years. The only players that we have been able to sign are frees. This means that they're out of contract and over 24 years old. Generally speaking players whose contract has run down, are not sufficiently wanted by their club to have been offered a decent contract early enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 8 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Carlisle - Moxon (CM, 7.00), Gibson (RW, 6.86), Lavelle (CB, 6.77) Wigan - Humphrys (RW, 7.05), Tickle (GK, 6.91), Morrison (CB, 6.81) Mansfield - Keillor-Dunn (AM, 7.53), Flint (CB, 7.24), Maris (CM, 7.23) Chesterfield - No Whoscored ratings... Dobra has been loosely linked Forest Green - McAllister (RW, 7.04), Inniss (CB, 6.71), Bunker (DM, 6.66) Newport - Evans (CF, 7.07), McLoughlin (RB, 6.94), Bogle (CF, 6.90) Doncaster - Ironside (CF, 6.85), Bailey (CB, 6.81), Anderson (CB, 6.81) Going through these... Carlisle - Moxon had a pretty ordinary game, Gibson came off the bench and struggled to make an impact, Lavelle had a solid defensive game Wigan - Humphrys came off the bench and scored his penalty in the shootout. Tickle and Morrison were unused subs Mansfield - didn't play Chesterfield - Dobra got booked and came off after 70 minutes Forest Green - didn't play Newport - Evans scored, McLoughlin got a full 90, Bogle didn't play Doncaster - Ironside came off the bench and scored his goal in the shootout. Bailey scored the equaliser, then scored in the shootout. Anderson wasn't in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 34 minutes ago, caymanram said: https://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/2023/july/manager-the-conversations-are-ongoing/ No clue as what club made the offer.. This story goes back to last July Eoghan1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoooMarkWright Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Carlisle fans don’t really give a glowing reference of Moxon here. Sounds as though he’s been poor in league 1 and has had a contract dispute most of the season. https://thebuzzisback.boards.net/thread/48/owen-moxon-thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 23 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Chesterfield - Dobra got booked and came off after 70 minutes If he did go to this game, I'd be interested if he's kept an eye on Conn-Clarke. Incredible player. Definitely one who's gonna go an EFL move very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 7 minutes ago, enachops said: Carlisle fans don’t really give a glowing reference of Moxon here. Sounds as though he’s been poor in league 1 and has had a contract dispute most of the season. https://thebuzzisback.boards.net/thread/48/owen-moxon-thread Sounds like he’s been unsettled with all the contract stuff and lost focus. BathRam72 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 A big black mark against his mentality and ability to deal with pressure then. Carlisle are his hometown club and he's talked of the great debt he owes to Simpson, but the prospect of a move to a team at the sharp end of League One makes him perform so poorly that some of the fans effusive with praise regarding his performances last season would happily get rid of him because they think they can do better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, Srg said: I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. You’re saying Warne should have used the zero transfer money he has spent on signing the absolutely best that non-league has to offer? (Which, by the way, no other transfer genius has done in the same time). How is that possible? Over the longest period Derby absolutely do seem to never unearth the gem and always end up paying the finders the fee. Likely due to competing at the sharp end of the table and that gamble is exactly that, a perceived gamble over a more established (and expensive) name. We should have had better scouts and transfer policy, absolutely. Even moreso in hindsight. But to level it at Warne right now? Not having it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, caymanram said: 3 hours ago, Srg said: I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. You’re saying Warne should have used the zero transfer money he has spent on signing the absolutely best that non-league has to offer? (Which, by the way, no other transfer genius has done in the same time). How is that possible? Over the longest period Derby absolutely do seem to never unearth the gem and always end up paying the finders the fee. Likely due to competing at the sharp end of the table and that gamble is exactly that, a perceived gamble over a more established (and expensive) name. We should have had better scouts and transfer policy, absolutely. Even moreso in hindsight. But to level it at Warne right now? Not having it. Expand Warne ultimately has the final say on what players we sign and play. However, my comments weren’t all aimed at Warne despite u seeming to want to believe they were so you can argue with me and be your usual abrasive self. No, they were as much directed at our scouting dept that doesn’t seem to be able to find these non and lower league gems that so many other clubs are. Yes, some of those will require fees but many do not and are out of contract. In truth Weston and Ratcliffe are examples of that …. But I don’t personally believe at this stage that u will see Warne ever play them… but time will tell and if they are a big success then i will happily eat some humble pie. As always, different opinions from different folk 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 hours ago, caymanram said: Warne ultimately has the final say on what players we sign and play. However, my comments weren’t all aimed at Warne despite u seeming to want to believe they were so you can argue with me and be your usual abrasive self. No, they were as much directed at our scouting dept that doesn’t seem to be able to find these non and lower league gems that so many other clubs are. Yes, some of those will require fees but many do not and are out of contract. In truth Weston and Ratcliffe are examples of that …. But I don’t personally believe at this stage that u will see Warne ever play them… but time will tell and if they are a big success then i will happily eat some humble pie. As always, different opinions from different folk 👍 You can get petty with me all you want, but you were the one who said it. If that isn’t what you meant then fair enough, but that was how your post read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 8 hours ago, enachops said: Carlisle fans don’t really give a glowing reference of Moxon here. Sounds as though he’s been poor in league 1 and has had a contract dispute most of the season. https://thebuzzisback.boards.net/thread/48/owen-moxon-thread If you read this forum you wouldn't go near any of our players on that basis. Caerphilly Ram, Tamworthram, LazloW and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 6 hours ago, May Contain Nuts said: A big black mark against his mentality and ability to deal with pressure then. Carlisle are his hometown club and he's talked of the great debt he owes to Simpson, but the prospect of a move to a team at the sharp end of League One makes him perform so poorly that some of the fans effusive with praise regarding his performances last season would happily get rid of him because they think they can do better? They sound as fickle as some on here Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezzyram Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 hours ago, Jubbs said: If he did go to this game, I'd be interested if he's kept an eye on Conn-Clarke. Incredible player. Definitely one who's gonna go an EFL move very soon. I went to the game, Conn- Clarke was comfortably the best player on the pitch and took his goal well after a slick passing move. Sounds like there's interest in him from the Championship including Swansea though. Dobra on the other hand was pants, was fortunate to get away with a mistake that led to a disallowed goal, got booked and was subbed after contributing little for 70 mins. He might be good on occasions but is very inconsistent imo inter politics and Jubbs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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