KBB Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 27 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: 8/1 on Collins scoring a header against Wigan. Quite telling Quite telling? nketia is 10-1 and Gabriel jesus is 14-1 to score a header against west ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 minute ago, KBB said: Quite telling? nketia is 10-1 and Gabriel jesus is 14-1 to score a header against west ham. I think the difference is Arsenal know it’s pointless whipping the ball into the box where their forwards are unlikely to win headers. Collins is better off making room for the ball to his feet. kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: I think the difference is Arsenal know it’s pointless whipping the ball into the box where their forwards are unlikely to win headers. Collins is better off making room for the ball to his feet. Haaland is 8-1 header v everton. Same game Calvert Lewin is 10-1 Caerphilly Ram and Returning ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 On 02/11/2023 at 17:07, sage said: As we appear to have some wriggle room and may be netting £3m plus for Cashin, what positions do you think we need to recruit in, what kind of player? £3m for a player who is available on a free in the summer? I think we will be very lucky to see £1.5 - £2m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, RAM1966 said: £3m for a player who is available on a free in the summer? I think we will be very lucky to see £1.5 - £2m. Club can allegedly extend his contract by a year due to a similar clause to Jason Knight, also there is allegedly a number of clubs interested in him including a couple of premier league sides….its not beyond the realms of possibility that we get close to £3m, realistically I think it’ll be lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 5 hours ago, KBB said: Quite telling? nketia is 10-1 and Gabriel jesus is 14-1 to score a header against west ham. Haha Collins is 6’2 and has a manager whose mantra is ‘run harder, get it out wide and cross it ‘ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Not exactly breaking news, but told we’re looking for a ST and RW in this window. John-Jules very unlikely to stay due to long term medical concerns. Eoghan1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 25, 2023 Author Share Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, RAM1966 said: £3m for a player who is available on a free in the summer? I think we will be very lucky to see £1.5 - £2m. He isn't available on a free. We have a years option. Even if he didn't, we would get a 7 figure compensation fee. We agreed on £3.6m at the end of August. Edited December 25, 2023 by sage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, sage said: He isn't available on a free. We have a years option. Even if he didn't, we would get a 7 figure compensation fee. We agreed on £3.6m at the end of August. Where is that reported? I can't find it and hope you are right, if he does go it should include a free loan back till the end of the season for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoghan1884 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Just interested on peoples opinion, if the 3.6 million fee was true what would yous drop it to if it meant we would have him back on loan for the rest of the season. Think I’d settle for 3 million, he is the difference between promotion and not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, Eoghan1884 said: Just interested on peoples opinion, if the 3.6 million fee was true what would yous drop it to if it meant we would have him back on loan for the rest of the season. Think I’d settle for 3 million, he is the difference between promotion and not for me. Definitely, it's about the economics, if that's the only path that achieves promotion, as our income will increase by a minimum of around £6m with promotion. However, if we feel that promotion will be achieved without the money raised from his sale, we may feel that Cashin will be more important to our potential championship campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, Eoghan1884 said: Just interested on peoples opinion, if the 3.6 million fee was true what would yous drop it to if it meant we would have him back on loan for the rest of the season. Think I’d settle for 3 million, he is the difference between promotion and not for me. I honestly don't think we'll get close to 3 mill tbh. With a loan back, I'd begrudgingly let him go for 2-2.5. And yes, that's based on the optimism that we do go up this season. And, of course, it needs to be invested wisely. Get a good goalscorer, wide player, and CM, and I'd say that's successful business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buckley’s Dog Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Just send Brighton Sonny Bradley, take the money, close the curtains and refuse to answer the door. Job done. RAM1966, Eoghan1884, RoyMac5 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 12 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: Haha Collins is 6’2 and has a manager whose mantra is ‘run harder, get it out wide and cross it ‘ Did he ever say that ? Or another made up myth ? Eoghan1884, Iniestagram, FlyBritishMidland and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, ram59 said: Definitely, it's about the economics, if that's the only path that achieves promotion, as our income will increase by a minimum of around £6m with promotion. However, if we feel that promotion will be achieved without the money raised from his sale, we may feel that Cashin will be more important to our potential championship campaign. Exactly this, take the option on the year or better still offer him a new contract, keep him till the end of the season and sell him in the summer window if he wants to go. He will be a Championship player then (Hopefully) and worth more than he is in League 1. Try for a cheeky loan back for a year deal. Let Brighton and Fester part take in a Dutch Auction for him! Edited December 26, 2023 by RAM1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Returning ram said: Did he ever say that ? Or another made up myth ? Pretty sure it wasn't meant as a direct quote, but it's hardly a stretch to say that doing a lot more running than the opposition and getting lots of crosses into the box are unquestionably the main foundations of Paul Warne's approach. He's talked about the importance of both at length when doing long-form interviews and that podcast, moreso than other on-pitch details.. Hene the infamous "gas out" stuff and us being right up there for statistically for the number of croses put in, and the desire over the summer to buy for a wing back system in which putting in lots of crosses is rather inherent. We can't just deny things which are objectively true just because stating them can be perceived as criticism. Or perhaps we can. All part of the big sweep. Edited December 26, 2023 by May Contain Nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, May Contain Nuts said: Pretty sure it wasn't meant as a direct quote, but it's hardly a stretch to say that doing a lot more running than the opposition and getting lots of crosses into the box are unquestionably the main foundations of Paul Warne's approach. He's talked about the importance of both at length when doing long-form interviews and that podcast, moreso than other on-pitch details.. Hene the infamous "gas out" stuff and us being right up there for statistically for the number of croses put in, and the desire over the summer to buy for a wing back system in which putting in lots of crosses is rather inherent. We can't just deny things which are objectively true just because stating them can be perceived as criticism. Or perhaps we can. All part of the big sweep. So a myth then, thanks 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 hours ago, RAM1966 said: Exactly this, take the option on the year or better still offer him a new contract, keep him till the end of the season and sell him in the summer window if he wants to go. He will be a Championship player then (Hopefully) and worth more than he is in League 1. Try for a cheeky loan back for a year deal. Let Brighton and Fester part take in a Dutch Auction for him! Just a loan or a cheeky loan….please clarify 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Returning ram said: So a myth then, thanks 👍 Nope, it's a fair assessment of what Warne values based on both spoken (direct from the horses mouth) and presented evidence. You can see it perfectly in today's first half - we've pressed relentlessly (with hard running) and all the goalscoring chances we've created ourselves have come from getting the ball into the box from wide areas. Sweep, sweep, sweep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 59 minutes ago, May Contain Nuts said: Nope, it's a fair assessment of what Warne values based on both spoken (direct from the horses mouth) and presented evidence. You can see it perfectly in today's first half - we've pressed relentlessly (with hard running) and all the goalscoring chances we've created ourselves have come from getting the ball into the box from wide areas. Sweep, sweep, sweep. Nope, he still didn't say it, nor is it a fair assessment. He said we need less touches to get the ball in the box, eg that's where you got goals from. He never said run harder, get it out wide and cross it, that's just made up. Our chances today came from both, high pressing and getting the ball in the box, once again, part of a game plan implemented by the manager that was both entertaining and effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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