Gee SCREAMER !! Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, StarterForTen said: Not sure there is a list but I do play golf (occasionally, and very badly) with a League One chief executive and last time out he told me he knew of at least three clubs who are spending very heavily this season and Derby (and his club) are not one of them. He said that Oxford's budget is eye-watering. He told me that his club tried to sign a player in the summer but were blown out of the water on wages by Oxford. There is certainly one player at Oxford we were signing till they came in last minute and we weren't in a position to match the wage offer at that point. I understand we were also keen on one player they signed previous to this, but wouldn't match the wage they offered as it was deemed too high with other options we had in the squad. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: There is certainly one player at Oxford we were signing till they came in last minute and we weren't in a position to match the wage offer at that point. I understand we were also keen on one player they signed previous to this, but wouldn't match the wage they offered as it was deemed too high with other options we had in the squad. This ties in with Warne saying early on that Oxford would be one of the favourites, I would imagine there is talk throughout football about who is doing what. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Its definitely a squad good enough for top 2, maybe lacking a 20+ goal player but enough players capable of hitting 10, right now we are underperforming and need to change that quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, StarterForTen said: Not sure there is a list but I do play golf (occasionally, and very badly) with a League One chief executive and last time out he told me he knew of at least three clubs who are spending very heavily this season and Derby (and his club) are not one of them. He said that Oxford's budget is eye-watering. He told me that his club tried to sign a player in the summer but were blown out of the water on wages by Oxford. This would’ve been about right IMO Edited October 18, 2023 by Curtains Added word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Would you swap Oxford's squad for ours? How many of their players would get in our team? 2? 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CongletonRam Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, sage said: Would you swap Oxford's squad for ours? How many of their players would get in our team? 2? 3? That question can only be answered by someone who has watched Oxford at length this season and studied what every player has to offer in their individual position, then compared them to our squad. Maybe you have done that...have you? Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 R. RODRIGUES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 CAMERON BRANNAGAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Mark Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Billy Bodin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, sage said: Would you swap Oxford's squad for ours? How many of their players would get in our team? 2? 3? Ciaron Brown, Greg Leigh, Cameron Brannagan, Ruben Rodrigues, and Mark Harris would all stake claims... that's nearly half an XI! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said: Ciaron Brown, Greg Leigh, Cameron Brannagan, Ruben Rodrigues, and Mark Harris would all stake claims... that's nearly half an XI! Instead of who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Curtains said: Billy Bodin Genuine question, how many full games have you seen Oxford play to come up with these names? Billy Bodin for example. According to the Oxford website he is a 31 year old forward that has scored just twice in 11 league games (717 minutes played). Is that much of a better return than from our existing squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said: Ciaron Brown, Greg Leigh, Cameron Brannagan, Ruben Rodrigues, and Mark Harris would all stake claims... that's nearly half an XI! Same genuine question I asked Curtains, how many full Oxford games have you seen to come up with these names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Are any of those players suitable for Warne's system? What attributes do they have that Warne would make use of, that the players he does have don't possess? Warne has shown that he has a strict way of playing and that the players he has at his disposal need to fit into certain defined roles, do certain tasks demanded of the system almost regardless of whether their attributes are a match for that job or not. Unless Oxford are a team, like us, who mainly utilise the wings and they're doing a better job of it than we are due to having these players then it's quite a useless comparison, is it not? Edited October 18, 2023 by Kokosnuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Genuine question, how many full games have you seen Oxford play to come up with these names? Billy Bodin for example. According to the Oxford website he is a 31 year old forward that has scored just twice in 11 league games (717 minutes played). Is that much of a better return than from our existing squad? It’s not me that’s criticising our squad . He is an attacking midfielder . I don’t watch Oxford but it’s common knowledge they have a good squad. Edited October 18, 2023 by Curtains Added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, sage said: 1k on an attendance is worth around 400k per annum in income. That assumes the average gross ticket price is £20 per head (ie £16.66 once VAT is taken out). Given concessions and season ticket discounts I reckon it may well be quite a bit below that. I did some work for Doncaster Rovers before the pandemic - the season they reached the L1 play-offs - and their average supporter contribution was £13.40 per head. That was net of taxes but did include f&b and programme sales revenues. Didn't include hospitality covers. Obviously not a like for like comparison but it was an eye opener to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Kokosnuss said: Are any of those players suitable for Warne's system? What attributes do they have that Warne would make use of, that the players he does have don't possess? Harris was the one that was coming till a offer came in from Oxford we couldn't match rather than wouldn't. This resulted a bigger pocket being available and we have brought in a few since.. I can't honestly comment on his attributes other than he looked a decent player at this level when he played us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondest Goat Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said: Ciaron Brown, Greg Leigh, Cameron Brannagan, Ruben Rodrigues, and Mark Harris would all stake claims... that's nearly half an XI! Haven't these all spent the majority of their careers in league one or below? Which of course must mean that they arent good enough for promotion. hintonsboots and angieram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, StarterForTen said: That assumes the average gross ticket price is £20 per head (ie £16.66 once VAT is taken out). Given concessions and season ticket discounts I reckon it may well be quite a bit below that. I did some work for Doncaster Rovers before the pandemic - the season they reached the L1 play-offs - and their average supporter contribution was £13.40 per head. That was net of taxes but did include f&b and programme sales revenues. Didn't include hospitality covers. Obviously not a like for like comparison but it was an eye opener to me. Plus shirts, programmes, sponsorship, hospitality etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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