YouRams Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Why do you say that? After admin bar the money for the two Poles we start at zero debt. We'll be run completely differently even after all the restrictions are lifted. Gone are the big transfer fees, DC won't want to make the same mistakes Mel made, we'll be run as a shrewd business, frees loans and small fees for the foreseeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Scott129 said: I get the sentiment, but for how long do we have to temper expectations with 'well at least we have a club'? Genuine question. Were down to one or two saleable assets right now, players left for peanuts and our academy was completely stripped. It's going to take a few years to build the academy and also be in the market for players with a sell on value. Personally I'd be patient for another 2/3 seasons. DiggerB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, YouRams said: We'll be run completely differently even after all the restrictions are lifted. Gone are the big transfer fees, DC won't want to make the same mistakes Mel made, we'll be run as a shrewd business, frees loans and small fees for the foreseeable. In your opinion. This is the owner who showed no qualms about 'ditching' Rosenior and heat-hunting Warne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: In your opinion. This is the owner who showed no qualms about 'ditching' Rosenior and heat-hunting Warne. Isn’t that an example of finding a permanent manager to replace an “interim manager” who was offered a role within the management team (if memory serves, but neither he nor PW were keen for that part). Not sure that’s comparable to how MM did business but I might be missing your point(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 minute ago, jameso said: Isn’t that an example of finding a permanent manager to replace an “interim manager” who was offered a role within the management team (if memory serves, but neither he nor PW were keen for that part). Not sure that’s comparable to how MM did business but I might be missing your point(?) It's showing that he will do what is necessary to make sure his investment isn't at risk. No sentimentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, YouRams said: I miss the togetherness and that unbelievable energy around the place when we nearly went bust. We should feel lucky we still have a club and get behind the lads and whichever manager is in charge at the time. Going to be a good few years before we're settled financially, enjoy the fact we still have games to watch, mistakes will happen as will losses but one day we'll be back enjoy the ride Saturday's could've been a lot different if it wasn't for DC! I think the messaging pre-season about us not being under transfer restrictions or whatever (generally not from anyone in particular) overly raised expectations regarding this window when we are still operating under an agreed budget and trying to be sustainable going forward. The reality check therefore seems painful Rammy03, MackworthRamIsGod, DiggerB and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 47 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: It's showing that he will do what is necessary to make sure his investment isn't at risk. No sentimentality. In your opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Just now, Wolfie20 said: In your opinion! Why, yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 56 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: In your opinion. This is the owner who showed no qualms about 'ditching' Rosenior and heat-hunting Warne. Did he have infra-red binoculars? RoyMac5 and Caerphilly Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, CBRammette said: I think the messaging pre-season about us not being under transfer restrictions or whatever (generally not from anyone in particular) overly raised expectations regarding this window when we are still operating under an agreed budget and trying to be sustainable going forward. The reality check therefore seems painful add the Jozwiak ruling and we simply further away from promotion than we all thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, YouRams said: We'll be run completely differently even after all the restrictions are lifted. Gone are the big transfer fees, DC won't want to make the same mistakes Mel made, we'll be run as a shrewd business, frees loans and small fees for the foreseeable. The most shrewd approach is to absolutely nail your recruitment strategy, from the academy right the way up. It takes money and investment, but if you have a system that you’re absolutely sure is bulletproof then you won’t go far wrong. The second part is coaching, again, right the way through. What we’re doing now is fine while we’re under restrictions and in League One, but if the long-term plan is short-term contracts and recycling through free agents every year then I struggle to get behind the vision. I understand the strategy is viable, because you’re actively monitoring your budget, not really tying yourself down in bad financial contracts, i.e. Anya, etc. I get with promotion you’re able to go for a higher class of player and bigger wages with the larger revenue. It’s a safer approach. It’s not to say it can’t work, either, but it’s not the way I envisage the club becoming successful long-term. YouRams, Abu Derby and sage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 minute ago, sage said: add the Jozwiak ruling and we simply further away from promotion than we all thought. Yes indeed. I also think we forget/dont know how everything around the club had been run down over recent seasons and the required reinvestment in everything all has to come from the budget. Also wasnt it the brilliant Quantuma that signed us up with Fanatics for merch prob meaning the club gets less than if we just ran the megastore ourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, CBRammette said: Yes indeed. I also think we forget/dont know how everything around the club had been run down over recent seasons and the required reinvestment in everything all has to come from the budget. Also wasnt it the brilliant Quantuma that signed us up with Fanatics for merch prob meaning the club gets less than if we just ran the megastore ourselves The Fanatics deal was announced in July 2021 so pre-admin. And it’s a 10 year deal. Thanks Mel!! CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, FlyBritishMidland said: The Fanatics deal was announced in July 2021 so pre-admin. And it’s a 10 year deal. Thanks Mel!! Going mad thought a gift from Q but as you say a final gift from MM. 😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, FlyBritishMidland said: The Fanatics deal was announced in July 2021 so pre-admin. And it’s a 10 year deal. Thanks Mel!! Lovely. Almost as bad as the merch deal Brian Epstein got for The Beatles. We don't think per chance the merch was separated from the club just before admin so it wasn't part of the shitfest to come.. who's getting the dollars ?. Mels just bought a new place on the coast. Fanatics Tower I've heard. Strange name.😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, YouRams said: Were down to one or two saleable assets right now, players left for peanuts and our academy was completely stripped. It's going to take a few years to build the academy and also be in the market for players with a sell on value. Personally I'd be patient for another 2/3 seasons. Which then begs the question, after a good pre-season, why wasn't Dajaune Brown on the bench against Wigan? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Which then begs the question, after a good pre-season, why wasn't Dajaune Brown on the bench against Wigan? Because he was playing for the U18 at Moor Farm against West Ham. They won 4-1 and that was the score after 25 minutes. He was unplayable and scored one of the goals. The downside is there were scouts from Premier League clubs watching but they're usually around. He has now signed a professional contract and is considered part of the first team squad for now. They'll be careful with him because he needs to be handled correctly. But there is a real chance that he could make a significant contribution to our League season if things go well for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 11 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Why do you say that? After admin bar the money for the two Poles we start at zero debt. Do we know for a fact that we are not in debt to Clowes for what he paid to take the club out of administration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, ossieram said: Do we know for a fact that we are not in debt to Clowes for what he paid to take the club out of administration? Do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Do you? No, but I wasn't claiming that we have zero debt. Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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