sage Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Something to cheer us all up after Saturday's disappointment Name you best XI from players that played under Arthur Cox and then your best XI from those that played under Jim Smith. Any formations you want, just a bit of fun/nostalgia. r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 ARTHUR COX: Shilton; Sage, Wright, Hindmarch, Forsyth; Gregory, G. Williams, P. Williams; Saunders, Goddard, McMinn. JIM SMITH: Poom; Delap, Stimac, West, C. Powell; Eranio, Carsley, Asanovic; Sturridge, Wanchope, Baiano. Fairly straightforward for me with my only real dilemma being between Baiano and Strupar in Jim's team. I chose Baiano because I think he would provide a little bit more balance to the XI and Strupar would be a great option anyway coming off the bench as an impact sub. I remember him coming on against Everton in Moyes first game as their manager and quickly scoring a couple of cracking goals to bring us back to 3-4 from 1-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 49 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said: ARTHUR COX: Shilton; Sage, Wright, Hindmarch, Forsyth; Gregory, G. Williams, P. Williams; Saunders, Goddard, McMinn. JIM SMITH: Poom; Delap, Stimac, West, C. Powell; Eranio, Carsley, Asanovic; Sturridge, Wanchope, Baiano. Fairly straightforward for me with my only real dilemma being between Baiano and Strupar in Jim's team. I chose Baiano because I think he would provide a little bit more balance to the XI and Strupar would be a great option anyway coming off the bench as an impact sub. I remember him coming on against Everton in Moyes first game as their manager and quickly scoring a couple of cracking goals to bring us back to 3-4 from 1-4. No Jacob Laursen? Taribo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: No Jacob Laursen? Considered him Pete but I went for Taribo West having not held his trips home to church against him! I thought West was outstanding in his season with us and if we'd re-signed him the next season instead of Ravanelli, we may well have avoided relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Brailsford Ram said: ARTHUR COX: Shilton; Sage, Wright, Hindmarch, Forsyth; Gregory, G. Williams, P. Williams; Saunders, Goddard, McMinn. JIM SMITH: Poom; Delap, Stimac, West, C. Powell; Eranio, Carsley, Asanovic; Sturridge, Wanchope, Baiano. Fairly straightforward for me with my only real dilemma being between Baiano and Strupar in Jim's team. I chose Baiano because I think he would provide a little bit more balance to the XI and Strupar would be a great option anyway coming off the bench as an impact sub. I remember him coming on against Everton in Moyes first game as their manager and quickly scoring a couple of cracking goals to bring us back to 3-4 from 1-4. Cox team spot on for me mate, Smith team Laursen and Van Der Laan for West and Carsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Premier ram said: Cox team spot on for me mate, Smith team Laursen and Van Der Laan for West and Carsley I'd have VDL and Lauren on my bench. I explained West above. For me VDL was outstanding in the promotion season, reliable the next season and then sold. Whereas Carsley was young and developing as he came through in the promotion year but then went on to have a long career in the PL, here and elsewhere and that's why I went for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Brailsford Ram said: ARTHUR COX: Shilton; Sage, Wright, Hindmarch, Forsyth; Gregory, G. Williams, P. Williams; Saunders, Goddard, McMinn. JIM SMITH: Poom; Delap, Stimac, West, C. Powell; Eranio, Carsley, Asanovic; Sturridge, Wanchope, Baiano. Fairly straightforward for me with my only real dilemma being between Baiano and Strupar in Jim's team. I chose Baiano because I think he would provide a little bit more balance to the XI and Strupar would be a great option anyway coming off the bench as an impact sub. I remember him coming on against Everton in Moyes first game as their manager and quickly scoring a couple of cracking goals to bring us back to 3-4 from 1-4. Agree it's relatively straightforward - small squads in those days, and Jim's later additions were not in the same league. My only surprise, as good as Strupar was, was your hesitation on naming Francesco. I just loved that Magical Italian lynchpin. EDIT: Surely Micklewhite instead of Paul Williams for Arthur's team But, man....Stimac, Asanovic, Eranio and Baiano....happy days. Then we signed Mikkel Beck. Edited February 27, 2023 by IslandExile Gary Micklewhite Dethorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrycav81 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 ARTHUR COX Shilton Sage Wright Hindmarsh Forsyth Callaghan Gregory G.Williams Mcminn Saunders Goddard JIM SMITH Poom Laursen Stimac McGrath C.Powell Eranio Carsley Asanovic Sturridge Wanchope Baiano JJs dms and Dean (hick) Saunders 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I was mulling over a combined best of from the two teams, such a hard call . . . Poom; Sage, Wright, Stimac, Forsyth; Eranio, G. Williams, Asanovic; Saunders, Goddard, Baiano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Brailsford Ram said: JIM SMITH: Poom; Delap, Stimac, West, C. Powell; Eranio, Carsley, Asanovic; Sturridge, Wanchope, Baiano. If you are looking for a best combined team, start with @Brailsford Ram's selection for Jim Smith's team above and put March Wright in for West, John Gregory in for Carsley and Saunders and Goddard in for Sturridge and Wanchope. Sub: McMinn. Oh for such riches in the forward line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poynton ram Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just for a bit of fun what were Jim’s worst signings? Everyone will say Beck but there were a few. Bragstad was poor, Schnoor on the basis he replaced Powell wasn’t brilliant and there were a few others. Can’t remember if Jim was responsible for signing Grenet but he wasn’t great either. Was Bob Malcolm a Jim signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Agree it's relatively straightforward - small squads in those days, and Jim's later additions were not in the same league. My only surprise, as good as Strupar was, was your hesitation on naming Francesco. I just loved that Magical Italian lynchpin. EDIT: Surely Micklewhite instead of Paul Williams for Arthur's team But, man....Stimac, Asanovic, Eranio and Baiano....happy days. Then we signed Mikkel Beck. I was a massive fan of both Baiano and Strupar. They were of course very different types, but the Italian magic swung it for me. I never really understood why he seemed to fall out of favour with Jim. But then the same could be said of Asanovic too. McClaren said that in the book Groundwork, he had to be cute in dissuading Jim on some of his views. That book really brings it home to the fact how lucky we were to have McClaren as the young, innovative coach and if when United came calling, we had given him the manager's job and appointed Jim as Director of Football he would have stayed. His departure was the watershed and things were just never the same in the Jim era after he went. Post-millennium years could have been so much better with McClaren at the helm. I wish you could have avoided mentioning Mikkel Beck. Notwithstanding his magnificent injury time header to equalise 3-3 against Southampton at the Dell, he was an awful player. Apparently, when they played together at Middlesbrough, Ravanelli flatly refused to pass the ball to Beck because he regarded him with such disdain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Poynton ram said: Just for a bit of fun what were Jim’s worst signings? Everyone will say Beck but there were a few. Bragstad was poor, Schnoor on the basis he replaced Powell wasn’t brilliant and there were a few others. Can’t remember if Jim was responsible for signing Grenet but he wasn’t great either. Was Bob Malcolm a Jim signing? Billy Davies signed Bob Malcolm. The worst Jim signing for me was the Australian left back, Con Blatsis - worse even than Mikel Beck. He played the first two games of 2001-02 against Southampton at home and Newcastle away and that was it - he was straight out the door. Hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, Henrycav81 said: ARTHUR COX Shilton Sage Wright Hindmarsh Forsyth Callaghan Gregory G.Williams Mcminn Saunders Goddard JIM SMITH Poom Laursen Stimac McGrath C.Powell Eranio Carsley Asanovic Sturridge Wanchope Baiano I agree about McGrath. He had slipped my mind and I would have him alongside Igor instead of West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said: Billy Davies signed Bob Malcolm. The worst Jim signing for me was the Australian left back, Con Blatsis - worse even than Mikel Beck. He played the first two games of 2001-02 against Southampton at home and Newcastle away and that was it - he was straight out the door. Hopeless. I'd put his mate signed the same week at 10x the cost who was uber b******* in front on price alone. May I present Bjorn Otto Bragstaad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 Shilton Sage Wright Short Forsyth Micklewhite Williams Gregory McMinn Saunders Goddard Poom Stimac McGrath West Eranio Asanovic Bohinen Powell Strurridge Bainao Wanchope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said: I never really understood why he seemed to fall out of favour with Jim. But then the same could be said of Asanovic too. Wasn't there also a limit of foreign players in the team at that time? I thought that did for Asanovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poynton ram Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: I'd put his mate signed the same week at 10x the cost who was uber b******* in front on price alone. May I present Bjorn Otto Bragstaad We seemed to have a few French players around that time, Ducroix springs to mind but may have made that up. They were all cr@p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I have a soft spot for Paul Blades, so... Cox Shilton Sage Wright Blades Forsyth Micklewhite Gregory G.Williams Mcminn Saunders Goddard Smith Poom Stimac McGrath West Eranio Carsley Asanovic C.Powell Sturridge Wanchope Baiano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, Poynton ram said: We seemed to have a few French players around that time, Ducroix springs to mind but may have made that up. They were all cr@p. on loan from Paris. Looked average- till we moved onto Teale and Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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