Skin em Ted Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 57 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: Totally agree, Kuhl was ok. I didn't think Harkes was that bad either. Harkes was OK...maybe he had more success with Sheff Wed. Derby fans probably associate him most with the fluffed shot in the Leicester Play Off which could have put us 2-1 up. Was an integral part of the US world cup side in 94 which was only narrowly knocked out by winners Brazil. Unfortunately his cross against Colombia had more tragic consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Skin em Ted said: Harkes was OK...maybe he had more success with Sheff Wed. Derby fans probably associate him most with the fluffed shot in the Leicester Play Off which could have put us 2-1 up. Was an integral part of the US world cup side in 94 which was only narrowly knocked out by winners Brazil. Unfortunately his cross against Colombia had more tragic consequences. Hmmm....I'm not convinced. BO Bragstad won 15 caps for Norway before he joined us, and played in all 3 of their games at Euro 2000. After he joined us, he never won another cap. There's probably another good thread on the subject of "Top XI who were great for other teams but crap for us". In fact, there's probably enough in that category to make 5 teams! JJs dms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, Kinder said: How about Mauricio Solis? Seemed to be signed just to help Wanchope settle in. Solis ended up with a raw deal to be honest. Smith always said that Solis was the player he originally scouted. Wanchope was brought along to help him settle and as a bit of a wildcard. The Premier League had a maximum non EU foreigner rule at the time and we only had space for one of the Costa Ricans to play regularly, so Wanchope's incredible form ensured Solis never got a run in the team. Crewton and Premier ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 31 minutes ago, Crewton said: Hmmm....I'm not convinced. BO Bragstad won 15 caps for Norway before he joined us, and played in all 3 of their games at Euro 2000. After he joined us, he never won another cap. There's probably another good thread on the subject of "Top XI who were great for other teams but crap for us". In fact, there's probably enough in that category to make 5 teams! Derek Hales would probably top that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin em Ted Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 46 minutes ago, Crewton said: Hmmm....I'm not convinced. BO Bragstad won 15 caps for Norway before he joined us, and played in all 3 of their games at Euro 2000. After he joined us, he never won another cap. There's probably another good thread on the subject of "Top XI who were great for other teams but crap for us". In fact, there's probably enough in that category to make 5 teams! Ha Ha, yeah they'll be plenty... especially those who scored against us but couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo whilst in a Rams shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 8 hours ago, Kinder said: How about Mauricio Solis? Seemed to be signed just to help Wanchope settle in. As I recall it was the other way around. Wanchope was a basketball player by trade who showed a bit of unpredictability and was a makeweight. Strange how things happen. After the last 12 months I fully expect Kubic and Knoflicek to turn up again and disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoooMarkWright Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 GK - all generally OK. Steve Sutton wasn’t great, but not bad. DF: Alex Watson on loan from Liverpool. Simon Webster - terrible. MF: Harkes, Pickering, Ian Wilson - so old he could hardly move. Glyn Hodges was a bit porky too! Att: All ok. Beck terrible. Anon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoooMarkWright Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: As I recall it was the other way around. Wanchope was a basketball player by trade who showed a bit of unpredictability and was a makeweight. Strange how things happen. After the last 12 months I fully expect Kubic and Knoflicek to turn up again and disappear. In the few times I saw him, Solis actually looked very capable Anon and Premier ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, enachops said: In the few times I saw him, Solis actually looked very capable Technically he was ok but he never seemed to think quickly enough. The game was too quick for him at that level . Had a bit of Mascarell about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 12 hours ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Beck was a strange signing. Don’t think he had really done that much at the top level yet Derby were an established premier league team then. Unfortunately that time seemed to signal the end of an era, players like Chris Powell, Wanchope and Baiano leaving and players like Stefan Schnoor and Beck coming in. I was actually really angry when we signed Beck. He'd been a laughing stock at Boro' for how bad he was, and we were a good side. It was obvious to anyone who knew a smidgen about football that he would be an appalling signing, yet it was being talked about. And then it actually happened. It was baffling and extraordinary. And he proved even worse for us than he'd been for them. It makes me furious just to write this post now. What were we thinking? Embarrassing signing of an embarrassingly poor player. IslandExile, TheresOnlyWanChope and Anon 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Bon Pony Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 At the time we signed Beck, my dad had a workmate that was a Boro fan. The Boro fan actually rang my dad up when it was announced that we'd signed Beck to apologise... and laugh. IslandExile and JJs dms 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: I was actually really angry when we signed Beck. He'd been a laughing stock at Boro' for how bad he was, and we were a good side. It was obvious to anyone who knew a smidgen about football that he would be an appalling signing, yet it was being talked about. And then it actually happened. It was baffling and extraordinary. And he proved even worse for us than he'd been for them. It makes me furious just to write this post now. What were we thinking? Embarrassing signing of an embarrassingly poor player. Same time we changed Stimac for Spencer Prior - help me. Powell for Schnoor still a good one. Schnoor must still have a link to the club based on his agent list. As of February 2009, he is a player agent. His agency, Kick and Rush GmbH, represents, among others, Colin Kazim-Richards, Mathias Jørgensen, Marcus Tudgay, Giles Barnes Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: I was actually really angry when we signed Beck. He'd been a laughing stock at Boro' for how bad he was, and we were a good side. It was obvious to anyone who knew a smidgen about football that he would be an appalling signing, yet it was being talked about. And then it actually happened. It was baffling and extraordinary. And he proved even worse for us than he'd been for them. It makes me furious just to write this post now. What were we thinking? Embarrassing signing of an embarrassingly poor player. I'm a loser baby Jon Bon Pony and Carl Sagan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 7 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: I was actually really angry when we signed Beck. He'd been a laughing stock at Boro' for how bad he was, and we were a good side. It was obvious to anyone who knew a smidgen about football that he would be an appalling signing, yet it was being talked about. And then it actually happened. It was baffling and extraordinary. And he proved even worse for us than he'd been for them. It makes me furious just to write this post now. What were we thinking? Embarrassing signing of an embarrassingly poor player. I remember a picture in match magazine with Boro players celebrating and the caption - Beck has just left to sign for Derby! I did think oh no Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 15 hours ago, Foreveram said: Derek Hales would probably top that list. Agreed. Stick Billy Campbell, Don Masson, Mick Coop, Barry Powell and Gordon Hill on that list too. Oh, and Kenny Burns too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 It's really interesting revisiting this period. There are certain positions where it's a real struggle to call any of our permanent players bad. It makes me realise what a good time it was for us in the 90s. It's also interesting to see the astonishingly steep drop off in the quality of our signings from 2000 onwards. There are so many players who would definitely make this list, but just miss the cut by about 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I remember thinking Daryl Powell was rubbish. He’d have been our best player in any/all of the last 14 seasons! angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Mostyn6 said: I remember thinking Daryl Powell was rubbish. He’d have been our best player in any/all of the last 14 seasons! Exactly. And I still say that about nearly every player I currently see making a good contribution elsewhere in the Championship when they weren't considered good enough for Derby in recent seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EranioIsGod Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 On 26/04/2022 at 10:24, I DONT MIND said: Bjorn Otto Bragstad. He was signed August 2000....but yes he was absolutely woeful. The turning circle of a cruise liner. Always remember the Bald Eagle trying his best to sign Bergdolmo from Rosenberg, but he went to Ajax instead, so Jim went for his CB partner... Bragstad... Bergdolmo was class. Bragstad wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poynton ram Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, EranioIsGod said: He was signed August 2000....but yes he was absolutely woeful. The turning circle of a cruise liner. Always remember the Bald Eagle trying his best to sign Bergdolmo from Rosenberg, but he went to Ajax instead, so Jim went for his CB partner... Bragstad... Bergdolmo was class. Bragstad wasn't. Jim really lost it didn’t he with some of his signings towards the end of his reign. Some really desperate signings on no doubt huge salaries. Did he sign the white feather? EranioIsGod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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