Chris_Martin Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 10/09/2021 at 22:16, IslandExile said: 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1, 5-3-2, 3-4-3 Take your pick of formation. But please, no more 2-2-5-1. What would everyone prefer to see out of the 4 below? Or maybe something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 Roos Byrne Jagielka Davies Buchanan Bird Morrison Jozwiak Sibley Lawrence Baldock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Against West Brom tonight I'd recommend 4141 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: What would everyone prefer to see out of the 4 below? Or maybe something else? Something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Roos Bryne Stearman Jagielka Davies Buchanan Knight Shinnie Morrison Baldock. Lawrence on set pieces and throw ins WBA pile loads into the box so leave the two forwards on the half way line and split so to make more room for us to actually defend with some space in our box as WBA will need at least 3 back to cover them especially if our forwards are wide enough and it gives Roos some options to get it forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Something else. thanks for the in depth explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 59 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: What would everyone prefer to see out of the 4 below? Or maybe something else? Where is Knight? I would play 3 at the back to allow the wing backs to push on, with Bird/Knight the midfield duo.....Roos in goal..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, Jimbo Ram said: Where is Knight? I would play 3 at the back to allow the wing backs to push on, with Bird/Knight the midfield duo.....Roos in goal..... i was just thinking for the next game, as Knight isn't ready to start a game. Otherwise I would also put Forsyth in over Buchanan. Roos in goal terrifies me. But then Allsop has been pretty poor, and Marshall hasn't even played a game since the Euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 56 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: What would everyone prefer to see out of the 4 below? Or maybe something else? When you play a back 3 doesn't at least one of the CBs need to have pace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavesaRam Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Chris_Martin said: What would everyone prefer to see out of the 4 below? Or maybe something else? I’d play all 4 of those options at the same time and we might have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 hours ago, IslandExile said: Roos Byrne Jagielka DaviesBuchanan Bird Morrison Jozwiak Sibley Lawrence Baldock Probably this but with Knight for Sibley. Not that exciting but in Wayne's eyes, about the right balance of experience and enthusiasm. TBF we don't have a goalscorer so we need to have a team that can compete and hope someone has a good night. Personally I'm not a Roos fan but Allsop looked like a deer in the headlights and Marshall is probably off the scene. I love the energy shown by Williams, Watson and Ebosele but they are still a bit naive at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabber Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Roos Brown Jagielka Davies Ebosele Morrison Bird Buchanan Sibley Lawrence Jozwiak If Ebosele isn't fit then Byrne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, dabber said: Roos Brown Jagielka Davies Ebosele Morrison Bird Buchanan Sibley Lawrence Jozwiak If Ebosele isn't fit then Byrne That approach actually has quite a lot of merit to it and it's the only 3 at the back lineup that's really caught my eye. Brown at the back gives a little bit more pace, comfort going out into wide areas and ability on the ball. Ebosele is a genuine threat in a wing back position and much more likely to hurt teams than Byrne is and wing back suits him more than being pushed further forward. Also gives the front three a lot of freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Anag Ram said: Probably this but with Knight for Sibley. Not that exciting but in Wayne's eyes, about the right balance of experience and enthusiasm. TBF we don't have a goalscorer so we need to have a team that can compete and hope someone has a good night. Personally I'm not a Roos fan but Allsop looked like a deer in the headlights and Marshall is probably off the scene. I love the energy shown by Williams, Watson and Ebosele but they are still a bit naive at this level. A midfield of Bird, Morrison and Knight could work well but you really wouldn't want Knight playing at 10. If you stick with a 4231 then you'd want Morrison at 10 but they'd probably better suited a midfield in a 433. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 6 hours ago, DCFC Kicks said: When you play a back 3 doesn't at least one of the CBs need to have pace? Ideally yes. But we dont really have another option. Jagielka has good positioning so that would potentially help with regards his lack of pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, DavesaRam said: I’d play all 4 of those options at the same time and we might have a chance. That would probably just confuse them even more ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 10/09/2021 at 22:16, IslandExile said: Play the full backs in defence. If you want to play them further forward, as wing backs if you will, then play three central defenders. Thanks for listening Wayne. That was much better, eh? Next...... let's work on the attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 10 hours ago, IslandExile said: Thanks for listening Wayne. That was much better, eh? Next...... let's work on the attack. Thing is, he has the personnel to change the defence. Not so the attack. Threadbare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, angieram said: Thing is, he has the personnel to change the defence. Not so the attack. Threadbare. True but tactically he can. It was a change of tactics that helped the defence last night. Not a change of personnel. The front four of Lawrence, Sibley, Morrison and Jozwiak worked really well in the first half against Forest. I'd go with that or maybe Watson in place of Morrison, and drop him back into CDM (as I said in the "rate Morrison" thread). Without CKR/Martin centre forward to hold the ball up, false number 9's, interchanging, high movement, slick passing is the way to go. I saw your comment about preferring that to having CKR, because he doesn't have the flicks of Martin. True but CKR or a forward that could hold the ball up (not Baldock or Stretton) would have helped against West Brom to stop the ball keep coming back so quickly and mounting the pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, IslandExile said: True but tactically he can. It was a change of tactics that helped the defence last night. Not a change of personnel. The front four of Lawrence, Sibley, Morrison and Jozwiak worked really well in the first half against Forest. I'd go with that or maybe Watson in place of Morrison, and drop him back into CDM (as I said in the "rate Morrison" thread). Without CKR/Martin centre forward to hold the ball up, false number 9's, interchanging, high movement, slick passing is the way to go. I saw your comment about preferring that to having CKR, because he doesn't have the flicks of Martin. True but CKR or a forward that could hold the ball up (not Baldock or Stretton) would have helped against West Brom to stop the ball keep coming back so quickly and mounting the pressure. Agree about CKR against WBA, would have been a perfect game for him. I was very pleased to hear that he might be back sooner than expected. He gives us another option but like you, I hope we won't revert to that being our only option. I still haven't seen the consistency from Sibley and Lawrence to think the front four option would work every game either. And it risks leaving us light further back. You know I'm Sibley's biggest fan so I hope I'm wrong. Will be good to have a few options to change it around up front but with CKR still out at the moment it is what it is - and for me that's threadbare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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