Sparkle Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, KBB said: Need to beg clubs for loans. We need to go cap in hand to man utd and beg them to loan us someone like elanga for nothing. It wont happen but we really need to explore every possible available avenue. We are desperate for quality. Forget the whole developing other teams youngsters arguement for a minute. We need quality to survive. We need a centre forward - they generally don’t come free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sparkle said: We need a centre forward - they generally don’t come free Agree. Rooney will have to pull in every favour he can possibly have. Man utd and elanga would be our best bet I think. Rooney is a legend there and is quite close to ole and fletcher so that might give us a foot through the door. Once through the door Rooney basically needs to break down in tears and beg for them to give us a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Tevez is a free agent again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 We desperately need another CF now as CZR can't play 46 + games a season. If we can't get Delap on loan, who do we go for though? We could also do with another CB, I'd like to think we could get Mengi again for his pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Ram1988 said: We desperately need another CF now as CZR can't play 46 + games a season. If we can't get Delap on loan, who do we go for though? We could also do with another CB, I'd like to think we could get Mengi again for his pace. It sounds like Wayne would like to loan Mengi, Garner and Delap, along with sign Jagielka and Baldock. That would give us depth at both CB and ST. While it seems incredibly unlikely, Wayne must have some assurances from Man Utd and the trialists that at least some of that could happen. As we know though, it all comes down to Mel sorting out the embargo with the EFL and getting it lifted. Based on that, it’s likely we miss out on most or all of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, r4derby said: It sounds like Wayne would like to loan Mengi, Garner and Delap, along with sign Jagielka and Baldock. That would give us depth at both CB and ST. While it seems incredibly unlikely, Wayne must have some assurances from Man Utd and the trialists that at least some of that could happen. As we know though, it all comes down to Mel sorting out the embargo with the EFL and getting it lifted. Based on that, it’s likely we miss out on most or all of those. If, and this is a massive if, we managed to get Mengi, Delap and Garner, I would happily miss out on Baldock. Jagielka is a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 hours ago, r4derby said: It sounds like Wayne would like to loan Mengi, Garner and Delap, along with sign Jagielka and Baldock. That would give us depth at both CB and ST. While it seems incredibly unlikely, Wayne must have some assurances from Man Utd and the trialists that at least some of that could happen. As we know though, it all comes down to Mel sorting out the embargo with the EFL and getting it lifted. Based on that, it’s likely we miss out on most or all of those. If we were 'willing' to give all the trialists contracts, do that imply we will spend more money on players? If the embargoes are lifted we can spend as we wish. Anyone ( @Ghost of Clough?) know what happens when we hand over (I'm assuming we will!) our redone P&S and accounts by/on the 18th August? Does the embargo change immediately, do we have to clear our HMRC 'debts' to be totally free or does the EFL control our transfers until they've passed the P&S? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Delap probably on his way to Stoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: If we were 'willing' to give all the trialists contracts, do that imply we will spend more money on players? If the embargoes are lifted we can spend as we wish. Anyone ( @Ghost of Clough?) know what happens when we hand over (I'm assuming we will!) our redone P&S and accounts by/on the 18th August? Does the embargo change immediately, do we have to clear our HMRC 'debts' to be totally free or does the EFL control our transfers until they've passed the P&S? HMRC needs to be cleared too, but there's a chance the EFL could offer some leeway. Although, in the event of a P&S failure we will be straight back under embargo - I doubt this will be the case tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 24 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Delap probably on his way to Stoke Even though they signed surridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: HMRC needs to be cleared too, but there's a chance the EFL could offer some leeway. Although, in the event of a P&S failure we will be straight back under embargo - I doubt this will be the case tbh Is what Nixon says true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Is what Nixon says true? I'm not sure what he's saying. Once restrictions are lifted, every comtract MUST include a possible extension? First time ive ever heard that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I'm not sure what he's saying. Once restrictions are lifted, every comtract MUST include a possible extension? First time ive ever heard that I think he was asked what is to stop us increasing the wages of those who signed on £4.5/week contracts. He replies those contracts would have to include 'contract extensions' to increase their wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 3 hours ago, r4derby said: It sounds like Wayne would like to loan Mengi, Garner and Delap, along with sign Jagielka and Baldock. That would give us depth at both CB and ST. While it seems incredibly unlikely, Wayne must have some assurances from Man Utd and the trialists that at least some of that could happen. As we know though, it all comes down to Mel sorting out the embargo with the EFL and getting it lifted. Based on that, it’s likely we miss out on most or all of those. I would definitely be happy if we could bring in Mengi, Garner and Delap. I would like to sign Jagielka but I think Mengi is needed more than him due to his pace. Otherwise if you just had any two of Davies, Stearman and Jagielka you don't don't have much pace there and can be left vulnerable. I probably wouldn't bother with Baldock if we could get Delap, however I do think as we need another CF so he would be better than no one to provide cover and give CKR the occasional rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Ram1988 said: We desperately need another CF now as CZR can't play 46 + games a season. If we can't get Delap on loan, who do we go for though? We could also do with another CB, I'd like to think we could get Mengi again for his pace. I don’t think Richards can even play 90 mins to be honest - I would take Jagielka if we could and I do agree that Mengi has pace but I am sure Man United would insist that he plays which might not be to our preferred options. If we are going to develop a centre half we might as well give Cashin his opportunity to step in when the older centre half’s need help or a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, Sparkle said: I don’t think Richards can even play 90 mins to be honest - I would take Jagielka if we could and I do agree that Mengi has pace but I am sure Man United would insist that he plays which might not be to our preferred options. If we are going to develop a centre half we might as well give Cashin his opportunity to step in when the older centre half’s need help or a rest. Did anyone else see the tweet last night with a 'snip' of a deleted DCFC tweet seeming to announce Jags? I didn't put it up because I assumed it was photoshopped, but I've seen others mentioning it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Did anyone else see the tweet last night with a 'snip' of a deleted DCFC tweet seeming to announce Jags? I didn't put it up because I assumed it was photoshopped, but I've seen others mentioning it? I am not a Twitter type of person hopefully something will be on teletext Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sparkle said: I am not a Twitter type of person hopefully something will be on teletext "In short, the new version of Teletext is only viewable if the TV is connected to the internet." I didn't know that, keep an eye out then. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Anag Ram said: If, and this is a massive if, we managed to get Mengi, Delap and Garner, I would happily miss out on Baldock. Jagielka is a must. 57 minutes ago, Ram1988 said: I would definitely be happy if we could bring in Mengi, Garner and Delap. I would like to sign Jagielka but I think Mengi is needed more than him due to his pace. Otherwise if you just had any two of Davies, Stearman and Jagielka you don't don't have much pace there and can be left vulnerable. I probably wouldn't bother with Baldock if we could get Delap, however I do think as we need another CF so he would be better than no one to provide cover and give CKR the occasional rest. Those 3 loans could be a huge lift for us. But temporary, so would need to make financial sense to us. Jagielka and Mengi are both still important, I think, as injuries and suspensions can add up and CB is one of the most important positions. Similarly to the centre forward spot, we’re not sure how many minutes CKR can play effectively, so to have different options will be important. Baldock and Delap would both offer something different, along with Stretton. Rooney has mentioned that we are looking at other players who haven’t trained with us yet, so that gives me hope that there are other names. The squad does need to grow slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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