nottingram Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Just now, The Last Post said: It's just not cricket...as the old saying goes. This isn't parks cricket...it's the Ashes, Bairstow switched off...and he's a keeper, I'd do the same, Has a Gauntlet been thrown down...it has in the Looooooong room 😉 Ultimately I’ve no problem it being out. He is “out”. But when a bowler mankad’s it is “out” as well and universally frowned on at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loftyhites Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Never seen a reaction like that in the Long Room. It was ‘out’ - no doubt about that. Rules v spirit of the game, I suppose. I think the Aussies would have won without that but didn’t want to take the risk. I wonder if Smith had been captain and it was just after the ball-tampering saga, if the appeal would have been withdrawn. Makes for an exciting afternoon session for as long as Stokes remains in. Interviews at the end might be interesting. The way that Broad is going at the Aussies, I’ll be betting that he’ll lose his match fee if he gets interviewed. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, nottingram said: Ultimately I’ve no problem it being out. He is “out”. But when a bowler mankad’s it is “out” as well and universally frowned on at that. Ian Bell when playing against India, He thought the ball had gone for a 4, It never hit the boundary it was thrown back and he was run out...a legitimate run out...the India captain declined to give him out...over lunch I believe. We rely to much on cricket being a gentleman's game...that went decades ago, There's still those in world cricket that believe it's a win at whatever cost and there's those that still believe it's 1950. JakeDCFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 nicely febrile atmosphere for the afternoon session Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Nothing gentlemanly about the Aussies. I switched off when they kept aiming at Broads head. Don’t like it angieram and Reggie Greenwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, The Last Post said: Ian Bell when playing against India, He thought the ball had gone for a 4, It never hit the boundary it was thrown back and he was run out...a legitimate run out...the India captain declined to give him out...over lunch I believe. We rely to much on cricket being a gentleman's game...that went decades ago, There's still those in world cricket that believe it's a win at whatever cost and there's those that still believe it's 1950. I don’t disagree and am not claiming to at all. I’m just saying there can’t be levels to the “spirit” stuff. It’s either there or it isn’t. I think this went against it so the Aussies have opened themselves up to all sorts, including mankads at any and every opportunity, claiming dodgy catches (like they’ve done on more than one occasion btw). That’s what they’ve opened up by not withdrawing the appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, nottingram said: I don’t disagree and am not claiming to at all. I’m just saying there can’t be levels to the “spirit” stuff. It’s either there or it isn’t. I think this went against it so the Aussies have opened themselves up to all sorts, including mankads at any and every opportunity, claiming dodgy catches (like they’ve done on more than one occasion btw). That’s what they’ve opened up by not withdrawing the appeal. 100% agree with "the spirit of the game" Cummins "could" have withdrawn the appeal but he didn't...why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Last Post said: 100% agree with "the spirit of the game" Cummins "could" have withdrawn the appeal but he didn't...why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 They can't.............can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: They can't.............can they? I'm still going to say, 'No.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said: I'm still going to say, 'No.' Me too, saves the disappointment if we don't. 😉 AndyinLiverpool and Ewe Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 All of a sudden the Aussies are finding Broad a lot less amusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Love how the crowd are cheering every little misstep by the Aussies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ewe Ram said: Love how the crowd are cheering every little misstep by the Aussies It's all very amusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Hilarious that it was Smith who dropped Stokes AndyinLiverpool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 40 minutes ago, nottingram said: Take a look at the YouTube clip I post a page or 2 ago, Douglas Jardine had Larwood bowling short balls…1930s tell me about the “spirit of the game” JakeDCFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Robinson you don't need to try to hit a 6 every ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Not watched all day, thought long and hard about putting it on the TV to watch it just in case I put on my normal curse it always goes horribly wrong. Thought to myself don’t be stupid its going to make no difference at all whatsoever. 1st ball to Stokes after I put the TV on out. Why oh why did I not listen to my gut feeling. Honestly I feel like it’s all my fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, cstand said: Not watched all day, thought long and hard about putting it on the TV to watch it just in case I put on my normal curse it always goes horribly wrong. Thought to myself don’t be stupid its going to make no difference at all whatsoever. 1st ball to Stokes after I put the TV on out. Why oh why did I not listen to my gut feeling. Honestly I feel like it’s all my fault. Drive to the pub to watch the finale. Game pretty much over once Stokes was out while I was still in car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Disappointing. Yes, the bazball philosophy was taken too far, yes, we were not clinical, but we could and probably should have won that game. As for the Bairstow dismissal, it may be within the rules, but really? History will show this generation of Aussies to be have been a tough group of highly talented players. They'll also be remembered as a group happy to employ any and all means of shenanigans to get their way and possibly the most reviled side since the bodyline series. By and large, they seem a thoroughly disagreeable collective and I'm praying we can take them down a notch at Headingley. Thursday will come quick enough and I suspect the crowd is going to be as hostile as any in a long time. one thing that's guaranteed is that the England lads will be smarting and fired up for revenge. This series looks gone to all intents, but the Aussies were creaking at one point and it's fair to say that one side has scope for considerable improvement. These last three tests could get very tasty indeed. RadioactiveWaste, ariotofmyown, Carnero and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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