Sith Happens Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, alexxxxx said: Just find this sad rather than funny or informative Sad that people even need telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Had the vaccine last night. All very well organised. It didn't hurt. I feel well today with no side effects. My arm feels slightly sore, but nothing to speak of. If you get offered it, please take it. Keep you and others safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 This could be the future for a lot of things - work, travel, pubs etc... No jab, no job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Eddie said: This could be the future for a lot of things - work, travel, pubs etc... No jab, no job Massively against this idea - as is the PM according to the final paragraph of the article; The prime minister's official spokesman has said: "Taking a vaccine is not mandatory and it would be discriminatory to force somebody to take one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Eddie said: This could be the future for a lot of things - work, travel, pubs etc... No jab, no job No job, no jab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Eddie said: This could be the future for a lot of things - work, travel, pubs etc... No jab, no job Legally it can only happen for new jobs, not to sack someone in an existing job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sith Happens Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Eddie said: This could be the future for a lot of things - work, travel, pubs etc... No jab, no job Against this too. The only thing i would potentally do maybe is for travel, where it is a requirement to have a test prior to travelling, if you have had the vaccine this 'could' negate the need for the test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Eddie said: This could be the future for a lot of things - work, travel, pubs etc... No jab, no job Wow that’s a tough one isn’t it. I’m all for everyone getting their vaccinations and as soon as possible. However to say you can’t work, travel or socialise in hospitality venues is a bit to far isn’t it? I’m not sure actually, If it means everyone has it, all this is ended and we go back to normal then I’d see it as a good thing. On the other hand enforcing just seems a little wrong. Tough decisions for our leaders to make going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Wow that’s a tough one isn’t it. I’m all for everyone getting their vaccinations and as soon as possible. However to say you can’t work, travel or socialise in hospitality venues is a bit to far isn’t it? I’m not sure actually, If it means everyone has it, all this is ended and we go back to normal then I’d see it as a good thing. On the other hand enforcing just seems a little wrong. Tough decisions for our leaders to make going forward. Overseas travel I agree with... it is already the case in many countries around the world for other viruses but it does leave a lot of issues - would Germany accept a 75 year old taking the Az vaccine when its not authorised in their country for instance? Within our own country - I think that whilst personally I like it, the moral/ethical side would be against it. Would I feel safer being in a restaurant, a theatre or a bar knowing everyone in that bar has taken a vaccine - absolutely. However, given that I'm (quite rightly) at the bottom of the queue for a vaccine, is it even legal to discriminate against me if I've not had the chance to take a vaccine. No - so I think in a court of law the Government would just lose this battle anyway. Then in the future - what evidence would you accept from overseas tourist who may go to the theatre in London - would other countries provide these people with a vaccine card/certificate and so on. Of course - this may be a rule to even enter our country in the first place.... Think we should just focus our efforts on getting as many vaccinated as possible and encouraging the anti-vaxxers to stop being stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, rammieib said: Overseas travel I agree with... it is already the case in many countries around the world for other viruses but it does leave a lot of issues - would Germany accept a 75 year old taking the Az vaccine when its not authorised in their country for instance? Within our own country - I think that whilst personally I like it, the moral/ethical side would be against it. Would I feel safer being in a restaurant, a theatre or a bar knowing everyone in that bar has taken a vaccine - absolutely. However, given that I'm (quite rightly) at the bottom of the queue for a vaccine, is it even legal to discriminate against me if I've not had the chance to take a vaccine. No - so I think in a court of law the Government would just lose this battle anyway. Then in the future - what evidence would you accept from overseas tourist who may go to the theatre in London - would other countries provide these people with a vaccine card/certificate and so on. Of course - this may be a rule to even enter our country in the first place.... Think we should just focus our efforts on getting as many vaccinated as possible and encouraging the anti-vaxxers to stop being stupid. Agree with all that, im down your end of the queue for the jab as well so would be extremely annoyed if they brought something in let’s say in Spring/early summer. But if it meant everyone having it and no risk of this thing causing disruption again, then I’d back anything that would lead to that. As people have said already I doubt it’s legal anyhow. Let’s just hope the majority just have it done and we can crack on as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Agree with all that, im down your end of the queue for the jab as well so would be extremely annoyed if they brought something in let’s say in Spring/early summer. But if it meant everyone having it and no risk of this thing causing disruption again, then I’d back anything that would lead to that. As people have said already I doubt it’s legal anyhow. Let’s just hope the majority just have it done and we can crack on as before. I would think its upto individual businesses. Saga have already made it mandatory to have the vaccine so it must be legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Agree with all that, im down your end of the queue for the jab as well so would be extremely annoyed if they brought something in let’s say in Spring/early summer. But if it meant everyone having it and no risk of this thing causing disruption again, then I’d back anything that would lead to that. As people have said already I doubt it’s legal anyhow. Let’s just hope the majority just have it done and we can crack on as before. Someone hacked your account ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, sage said: Had the vaccine last night. All very well organised. It didn't hurt. I feel well today with no side effects. My arm feels slightly sore, but nothing to speak of. If you get offered it, please take it. Keep you and others safe. Your lucky then mine really hurt it made very very sleepy after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, BIllyD said: Someone hacked your account ? I’ve always been in favour of anything ending all this* as soon as possible !!! *illness/deaths/lockdowns/restrictions/not seeing family/not going out/not going to football, gigs, cricket, holidays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Your lucky then mine really hurt it made very very sleepy after it. I had mine at 7.30pm which I would recommend to everyone if you get the choice. Have it between 6 and 10 then go to bed with 2 paracetamol and wake up fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I had mine at 11:55 in the morning last friday I fell asleep 2 to 3 hours later when I final woke up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Eddie said: This could be the future for a lot of things - work, travel, pubs etc... No jab, no job Wow! An absolutely horrific idea. What next? Maybe we could stop people having jobs based on their weight, sex or skin colour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: Wow! An absolutely horrific idea. What next? Maybe we could stop people having jobs based on their weight, sex or skin colour? Whilst not legal, that policy does already apply in a great many white collar sectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Wow! An absolutely horrific idea. What next? Maybe we could stop people having jobs based on their weight, sex or skin colour? Yes because you choose your skin colour, great example ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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