Coronavirus

[Rev]

1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said:

I'm guessing local authorities will only be funded for businesses that take the grants

Possibly, but paying it back eventually will put you at a disadvantage surely?

It's not like they'll raise taxes only for companies that helped themselves, so you'll be paying more tax regardless.

You could use the money for training, an apprentice, getting yourself ready to reopen if you've shut, even to donate to local good causes. Obviously that all depends on what type of business you run.

I just thought that you'd be better placed to decide how to spend this money than the socialists who've given it you?

 

[Gritstone Ram]

15 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

It sounds like a great idea in theory but, it's like whenever questions and answers are published. They can choose the ones they want to answer.

That question was too random and if you were going to pick one to answer I’m sure you would pick a more political loaded question. I don’t think Matt Hancock could believe what he was reading.

[Guest]

35 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said:

Possibly, but paying it back eventually will put you at a disadvantage surely?

It's not like they'll raise taxes only for companies that helped themselves, so you'll be paying more tax regardless.

You could use the money for training, an apprentice, getting yourself ready to reopen if you've shut, even to donate to local good causes. Obviously that all depends on what type of business you run.

I just thought that you'd be better placed to decide how to spend this money than the socialists who've given it you?

 

It's not my money though and it's a support grant. I dont require support so would think it would be wrong to claim it.

I've done nothing to get it other than having my own business rates account and I dont even pay business rates.

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

It sounds like a great idea in theory but, it's like whenever questions and answers are published. They can choose the ones they want to answer.

Supposedly chosen by an independent body

[Archied]

35 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Supposedly chosen by an independent body

Is there such a thing?

[1967Ram]

Six weeks ago the government downgraded the seriousness of coronavirus, it was a High consequence infectious disease. 

[Eddie]

2 hours ago, 1967Ram said:

Six weeks ago the government downgraded the seriousness of coronavirus, it was a High consequence infectious disease. 

Reality sucks.

[maxjam]

I guess this is good news if you're relatively young and healthy;

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-95-of-victims-in-england-hospitals-had-underlying-health-conditions-11979733

Ninety-five percent of people who have died with COVID-19 in hospitals in England had underlying health issues, according to figures obtained by Sky News.

The data provided by NHS England shows that, as of 5pm on 26 April, 18,749 people had died in hospital with the virus.

In a small number of cases, it was not possible to confirm if a patient did or did not have an underlying health condition.

But for those where it was, 95% were found to have serious pre-existing issues.

[SSD]

15 hours ago, RamNut said:

What work do you do?

Supply Chain Logistics work, can also do inventory management and planning as well.

[curb]

3 hours ago, maxjam said:

I guess this is good news if you're relatively young and healthy;

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-95-of-victims-in-england-hospitals-had-underlying-health-conditions-11979733

Ninety-five percent of people who have died with COVID-19 in hospitals in England had underlying health issues, according to figures obtained by Sky News.

The data provided by NHS England shows that, as of 5pm on 26 April, 18,749 people had died in hospital with the virus.

In a small number of cases, it was not possible to confirm if a patient did or did not have an underlying health condition.

But for those where it was, 95% were found to have serious pre-existing issues.

I don’t see what relevance there is to that statement, it’s still 18,000 people who have died because of the virus. Are they implying that it doesn’t matter if they die because they had asthma or angina?

[Mostyn6]

10 minutes ago, curb said:

I don’t see what relevance there is to that statement, it’s still 18,000 people who have died because of the virus. Are they implying that it doesn’t matter if they die because they had asthma or angina?

It is relevant cos nobody has died of cancer or heart disease since Coronavirus existed. Is cancer now cured? 
 

Just to add, your choice of words “because of...” is exactly what some of us are concerned about. 
 

if you crash your car because the brakes fail, but you also have a bulb blown, are you blaming the blown bulb? 

[maxjam]

5 minutes ago, curb said:

I don’t see what relevance there is to that statement, it’s still 18,000 people who have died because of the virus. Are they implying that it doesn’t matter if they die because they had asthma or angina?

The article doesn't imply anything, it just presents stats.

It could just as easily imply good news for the vast majority of us.  We won't die from it and can probably go back to work - just shield the vulnerable.

[Archied]

1 minute ago, curb said:

I don’t see what relevance there is to that statement, it’s still 18,000 people who have died because of the virus. Are they implying that it doesn’t matter if they die because they had asthma or angina?

It may play into figures and counting of deaths ,like it or not there is lots of ambiguity around deaths being attributed to Covid19 that are not due to it  or those that are due to it poss not being counted , there are also questions around care home deaths where there are issues with already ill residents not getting the usual level of medical care they need along with the devastating effect the crisis is having on them and then those deaths being recorded as Covid19 deaths or not depending on what side wants to spin what ,

we have new emergency hospitals built that are Virtually empty and are now telling people they need to be going to hospital for non Covid19 issues as capacity is there?

we have the whole world virtually locked down , people’s livelihoods ,businesses, jobs , homes lives in tatters on the strength of figures that don’t seem to make much sense and can’t even be counted and reported properly       wtf Is going on,

on the up side Craig David is putting out music free ( fantastically selfless these people) so all is good 

[GboroRam]

19 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said:

It is relevant cos nobody has died of cancer or heart disease since Coronavirus existed. Is cancer now cured? 
 

Really? 

[Wolfie]

51 minutes ago, Archied said:

It may play into figures and counting of deaths ,like it or not there is lots of ambiguity around deaths being attributed to Covid19 that are not due to it  or those that are due to it poss not being counted , there are also questions around care home deaths where there are issues with already ill residents not getting the usual level of medical care they need along with the devastating effect the crisis is having on them and then those deaths being recorded as Covid19 deaths or not depending on what side wants to spin what ,

we have new emergency hospitals built that are Virtually empty and are now telling people they need to be going to hospital for non Covid19 issues as capacity is there?

we have the whole world virtually locked down , people’s livelihoods ,businesses, jobs , homes lives in tatters on the strength of figures that don’t seem to make much sense and can’t even be counted and reported properly       wtf Is going on,

on the up side Craig David is putting out music free ( fantastically selfless these people) so all is good 

It is a mess but I don't see how it could really have been different, with a new disease and all governments scrabbling around for the best way of tackling it.

Hospitals had to be emptied and new temporary ones built in order to cope with the massive influx which, thankfully up to now, has not materialised. Now they have the new problem of spare capacity and how to re-open routine NHS treatments safely.

From a purely selfish point of view, in the last few weeks I have become aware of a rapidly growing and changing mole but I have no idea when I will be able to see a GP, never mind the huge backlog in the system for any further treatment, should it be required.

[Angry Ram]

1 hour ago, SouthStandDan said:

Supply Chain Logistics work, can also do inventory management and planning as well.

Who did you work for? Yusen?

[1967Ram]

23 minutes ago, Van Wolfie said:

It is a mess but I don't see how it could really have been different, with a new disease and all governments scrabbling around for the best way of tackling it.

Hospitals had to be emptied and new temporary ones built in order to cope with the massive influx which, thankfully up to now, has not materialised. Now they have the new problem of spare capacity and how to re-open routine NHS treatments safely.

From a purely selfish point of view, in the last few weeks I have become aware of a rapidly growing and changing mole but I have no idea when I will be able to see a GP, never mind the huge backlog in the system for any further treatment, should it be required.

Contact your doctor today mate.

[Eddie]

At least I don't have to pay any delivery charge on my groceries now. Happy days.

[Van der MoodHoover]

17 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:

Anyone taken advantage of any Government financial support?

Received an e-mail today telling me to apply for my £10k small business grant, despite the fact that I had never requested it nor given any indication that I needed it!

Anyone else found that they are being offered money that they dont need?

Mrs VdM applied for and got her 10k grant. She feels terribly guilty as she did a deal last year with her landlord so is now subletting a workshop (instead of a retail premises) and is therefore not paying business rates so outgoings have been slashed.

However, I pointed out that she had previously been eligible for 18 months of small business rate relief that the ever loving council (Test Valley) had denied existed when asked, which amounted to more or less 10k, so I thought it was serendipitous.

[Van der MoodHoover]

33 minutes ago, Van Wolfie said:

It is a mess but I don't see how it could really have been different, with a new disease and all governments scrabbling around for the best way of tackling it.

Hospitals had to be emptied and new temporary ones built in order to cope with the massive influx which, thankfully up to now, has not materialised. Now they have the new problem of spare capacity and how to re-open routine NHS treatments safely.

From a purely selfish point of view, in the last few weeks I have become aware of a rapidly growing and changing mole but I have no idea when I will be able to see a GP, never mind the huge backlog in the system for any further treatment, should it be required.

One question that came to my mind that i haven't seen an answer for is "where did the 30,000 people who were in hospital go, in order to free up the beds"?

undoubtedly some were into care homes, but presumably not all? So is the NHS chronically mismanaging discharging patients, or are there other timebombs ticking elsewhere in society?