Shuff264 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Srg said: Not saying you're wrong, but they're all different positions. JML is more of a winger than Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Shuff264 said: JML is more of a winger than Knight Exactly, and we don't play with wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minesahartington Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 With any luck they will give us Clarke-Harris 20 goals in 30 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: it was Lampard who game him his debut. I’m getting old. I was convinced that was under rowett. Must have just been a crap game ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, RamNut said: I’m getting old. I was convinced that was under rowett. Must have just been a crap game ? That was Luke Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, Srg said: Not saying you're wrong, but they're all different positions. Sort of... JML has played best when on the right wing but is just as comfortable playing on the left. We've seen Knight play on both wings (although not him primary position), and we've also seen Whittaker play in his preferred position on the right (who is comfortable playing as a CF and capable on the left). Even Sibley has played the occasional game on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Sort of... JML has played best when on the right wing but is just as comfortable playing on the left. We've seen Knight play on both wings (although not him primary position), and we've also seen Whittaker play in his preferred position on the right (who is comfortable playing as a CF and capable on the left). Even Sibley has played the occasional game on the wing. Not true wingers in the same sense though, JML is more of a get to byline and cross type. It's about instructions within the system, i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Ambitious said: I'd forgotten about Elsnik, who hasn't even got a club now. He looked extremely promising at one point, never got a chance and now not even in work! I'm sure he will land on his feet, even if he never gets back to Championship level, he has too much ability not to do something. Thomas hasn't been awful for Barnsley, but hasn't done too much. Barnsley fans don't hate him. Feel like Elsnik was a victim of Rowett’s regime and then having Mount the next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, JustOneChrissyMartin said: Feel like Elsnik was a victim of Rowett’s regime and then having Mount the next season. He's been without a club since July I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 54 minutes ago, JustOneChrissyMartin said: Feel like Elsnik was a victim of Rowett’s regime and then having Mount the next season. 23 minutes ago, Duracell said: He's been without a club since July I think? Can't believe Elsnik isn't at another club, but I always thought he was more suited to a higher level. Still only 21. Feel he should ask to train at Moor Farm to get his fitness/sharpness back and then maybe Cocu will see him, put him into the U23s for a trial and then give him a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Carl Sagan said: Can't believe Elsnik isn't at another club, but I always thought he was more suited to a higher level. Still only 21. Feel he should ask to train at Moor Farm to get his fitness/sharpness back and then maybe Cocu will see him, put him into the U23s for a trial and then give him a new contract. Maybe there was other issues than playing skills? We see so little from the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Good luck to him. I thought he'd be one of the next ones to be drafted in towards the end of the season, obviously they want him out getting regular games. Hope he kicks on and comes back ready for a shot at the first team next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EalingRam Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Not completely convinced it's the best choice of club for him if I'm honest. League One is great, but Rovers have achieved their relative success this season playing almost exclusively with five across the back and no wingers. The wingers they've had have either been pushed to full back (Rodman) or frozen out of the first team (Bennett). My only hope is that the new manager is looking to switch things up, and the arrival of JML indicates a desire to move towards a 4-3-3 or similar formation long term. Could struggle to get in otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 06/01/2020 at 16:21, Carl Sagan said: Can't believe Elsnik isn't at another club, but I always thought he was more suited to a higher level. Still only 21. Feel he should ask to train at Moor Farm to get his fitness/sharpness back and then maybe Cocu will see him, put him into the U23s for a trial and then give him a new contract. Pass a message to the Club, Carl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 17 hours ago, Rampage said: Pass a message to the Club, Carl. Earlier in the season I suggested it to Timi. He's been living in Derby till a couple of weeks ago, but I don't know if he made it back to Moor Farm at all. Feel for him as a young kid in a foreign country losing his job and maybe his sense of purpose. You can't live these youngster's lives for them. Seemed to me he had all the ability in the world, but he's got to put himself in the shop window and I don't see that he's been doing that. "If I knew then what I know now..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: Earlier in the season I suggested it to Timi. He's been living in Derby till a couple of weeks ago, but I don't know if he made it back to Moor Farm at all. Feel for him as a young kid in a foreign country losing his job and maybe his sense of purpose. You can't live these youngster's lives for them. Seemed to me he had all the ability in the world, but he's got to put himself in the shop window and I don't see that he's been doing that. "If I knew then what I know now..." Well said Carl. I too thought that he was very talented. Nothing to do with Timi but Rooney said that he played with players who did not even like football but just used football as a way of earning money pretty much like every other walk of life. Timi may have had more chance with Frank or Cocu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Straight into the starting XI tonight - hope he does well for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 08/01/2020 at 19:11, Rampage said: Well said Carl. I too thought that he was very talented. Nothing to do with Timi but Rooney said that he played with players who did not even like football but just used football as a way of earning money pretty much like every other walk of life. Timi may have had more chance with Frank or Cocu. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/aug/16/the-joy-of-six-footballers-who-can-take-or-leave-football Remember Assou-Ekotto at Spurs in particular saying he didn't like football and it was just a job. Personally know someone who played a fair few games for 2 big championship clubs but had no love for the game. Circumstances saw him become a free agent and he dropped down to play for a more local league team rather than try to stay at that level. The desire just wasn't there and he ended up drifting further down to non-league fairly quickly, and eventually giving up and going to work for a family member instead. Daft sod also gambled/drank his substantial wages away so has nothing to show for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rample said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/aug/16/the-joy-of-six-footballers-who-can-take-or-leave-football Remember Assou-Ekotto at Spurs in particular saying he didn't like football and it was just a job. Personally know someone who played a fair few games for 2 big championship clubs but had no love for the game. Circumstances saw him become a free agent and he dropped down to play for a more local league team rather than try to stay at that level. The desire just wasn't there and he ended up drifting further down to non-league fairly quickly, and eventually giving up and going to work for a family member instead. Daft sod also gambled/drank his substantial wages away so has nothing to show for it. I often tell the story, but I bumped into Rob Hulse on an away day at Villa, he said it was the first game he had attended since retiring, he was only taking his nephew. He said he wasnt interested in football and only did it as a job, he said he had the opportunity to go to Boro but didn't see the point as he was already being paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I often tell the story, but I bumped into Rob Hulse on an away day at Villa, he said it was the first game he had attended since retiring, he was only taking his nephew. He said he wasnt interested in football and only did it as a job, he said he had the opportunity to go to Boro but didn't see the point as he was already being paid. Read a similar thing in an interview with Batistuta when he was at Fiorentina. Reckoned he had no interest in football at all. Couldn't even be arsed to watch it on telly. Probably more than we think. Lot's of people do a job for 10 years they really don't like if the pays that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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