maxjam Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Maybe not the breaking news that some of you want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Was furloughing people a great idea by the government ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Curtains said: Was furloughing people a great idea by the government ! It was for my mrs. Full pay since it started without doing a jot of work. Coyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Just now, bigbadbob said: It was for my mrs. Full pay since it started without doing a lot of work. Coyr Brilliant. Think the government have been very fair to people by furloughing them to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, maxjam said: Maybe not the breaking news that some of you want... I did say, moments after the news broke about Cummings and Goings in Durham, that it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference, so I won't be holding my breath. It will be interesting to see whether there are any appeals from people, faced with fines for breaking lockdown regulations, over the forthCummings days and weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Not to be overly critical of the furlough scheme, as I think it's been pretty much the only success this government has had during this crisis, but it's easy to do handouts... it's much harder to raise taxes in a fair way to pay for it all once it's come to an end. As a saver, talk of negative interest rates doesn't sit too well with me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Government helped small businesses https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/coronavirus-small-business-grants-fund-local-councils-a9495691.html https://www.creativequarter.com/articles/work/what-support-is-there-for-businesses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Eddie said: I did say, moments after the news broke about Cummings and Goings in Durham, that it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference, so I won't be holding my breath. It will be interesting to see whether there are any appeals from people, faced with fines for breaking lockdown regulations, over the forthCummings days and weeks. This will be another attempt to put a lid on this. Boris didn't do it yesterday, so this will be a public apology statement. Then we have to wait and see how the apology plays with the press and public opinion in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 minute ago, therealhantsram said: This will be another attempt to put a lid on this. Boris didn't do it yesterday, so this will be a public apology statement. Then we have to wait and see how the apology plays with the press and public opinion in general. I’m more interested how we get out of lockdown and avoid a massive recession and job losses etc . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Quote "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right." George Orwell, 1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Curtains said: I’m more interested how we get out of lockdown and avoid a massive recession and job losses etc . Lockdown's over. Cummings made sure of that. Nothing the government say or do will change that inescapable fact. Herd immunity and another 100,000 deaths before Christmas here we come - and some will say 'totally worth it'. That's the thing about collateral damage - it is swept under the carpet - even under the carpet bombing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Eddie said: Lockdown's over. Cummings made sure of that. Nothing the government say or do will change that inescapable fact. Herd immunity and another 100,000 deaths before Christmas here we come - and some will say 'totally worth it'. That's the thing about collateral damage - it is swept under the carpet - even under the carpet bombing. Excuse me but herd immunity isn’t the way. No one knows how long covid 19 antibodies last if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 People more worried about punishing Cummings than the actual Covid 19 virus. Don’t forget individuals are responsible for their own safety as well as safeguard of the NHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Curtains Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Just now, Eddie said: You see this is the mentality of people like you. I wouldn’t mind the Labour Party having a go at cocking things up. After all the money has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Curtains said: Excuse me but herd immunity isn’t the way. No one knows how long covid 19 antibodies last if at all. You know that, I know that, the scientists know that, anyone with half a brain knows that. Strangely enough, the government's chief advisor and the prime minister are oblivious to that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Curtains said: Excuse me but herd immunity isn’t the way. No one knows how long covid 19 antibodies last if at all. He was being facetious.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Just now, Eddie said: You know that, I know that, the scientists know that, anyone with half a brain knows that. Strangely enough, the government's chief advisor and the prime minister are oblivious to that fact. No that’s just politicising the Covid 19 epidemic. If you want to do that it’s fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Just now, Curtains said: You see this is the mentality of people like you. I wouldn’t mind the Labour Party having a go at cocking things up. After all the money has gone. How utterly predictable. It would have been far worse under Labour, praise the Tories. I'm NOT a Labour supporter. I have voted Labour in general elections the same number of times I voted Conservative - once. 'People like me' are the people who said, from the very start, that this government's approach was an utter disaster. Now, when I point out that their own arrogance is compounding and worsening that disaster, it's my fault. Like I said, how utterly predictable you are. Typical Tory - blame somebody else while you sit there wringing your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Eddie said: How utterly predictable. It would have been far worse under Labour, praise the Tories. I'm NOT a Labour supporter. I have voted Labour in general elections the same number of times I voted Conservative - once. 'People like me' are the people who said, from the very start, that this government's approach was an utter disaster. Now, when I point out that their own arrogance is compounding and worsening that disaster, it's my fault. Like I said, how utterly predictable you are. Typical Tory - blame somebody else while you sit there wringing your hands. I was referring to the last time Labour left office they left a note saying we have spent all the money. The economic situation after Covid19 will be far worse I’m afraid. The economy will need good management. Peoples lives are more important but a long lockdown and recession will also leave people suffering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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