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1 hour ago, GboroRam said:

We've had enough of experts. This is the year of the happy amateur having a crack. That's why Trump is being lined up for another term - you don't need to be knowledgeable to be in charge any more. 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/the-bluffocracy-how-britain-ended-up-being-run-by-eloquent-chancers/

Posted this link before - but it's absolutely spot on.

It's the route taken by someone who didn't appreciate how important Dover was to trade ….  into the Foreign Office.

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13 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:

At the expense of being accused of whataboutery again, is there any instances of Corbyn showing such interest when it was the Iranians attacking the Americans?

He seems to be the only person unwilling to even see the guy as a terrorist. Pretty clear to see whose camp he is in.

Was he a terrorist when he was taking out ISIS for us?

I think you need to take a read of that newspaper letter I posted a couple of pages back. Could just be that Corbyn is the only one acknowledging the complexity of the middle east situation. At no point does he say that he wasn't a terrorist or that he supported him - he just refuses to be drawn in the pathetic media game of painting every situation in noddy terms for the hard of thinking.

 

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59 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

Was he a terrorist when he was taking out ISIS for us?

I think you need to take a read of that newspaper letter I posted a couple of pages back. Could just be that Corbyn is the only one acknowledging the complexity of the middle east situation. At no point does he say that he wasn't a terrorist or that he supported him - he just refuses to be drawn in the pathetic media game of painting every situation in noddy terms for the hard of thinking.

Based on this measure Bin Laden wasn't a terrorist either then.

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14 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Based on this measure Bin Laden wasn't a terrorist either then.

So you're acknowledging that the US recruit, train and arm these assets when it suits their interests, and then kill them once they somehow turn those skills/weaponery against them? Have you figured out who is really to blame yet though?

 

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11 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

So you're acknowledging that the US recruit, train and arm these assets when it suits their interests, and then kill them once they somehow turn those skills/weaponery against them? Have you figured out who is really to blame yet though?

 

Keogh

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30 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Based on this measure Bin Laden wasn't a terrorist either then.

What goes around comes around …. have you not seen Rambo 3?

all time classic example -

1933 - 1935 ... That nice young Mr Hitler and all his smart young men revitalising the German economy and holding the Reds at bay

1936 … oh, hold on, a German air force? I didn't think they were allowed ….

1938 … feeling anxious, but Czechs are kind of Germans Lite aren't they?

1940 ...oh bugger

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I do feel sorry for all of you who are wishing for WWIII just so you can be proven right in your own heads over Trump. 

Must be a terrible place to be put in. 

Mind you, you can look forward to Brexit and emergency budgets, lack of medicine, not being able to fly etc. 

And if that doesn't prove you were correct, you can look forward to the world ending in 7 years. 

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9 hours ago, Norman said:

Ftfy. 

You do seem to be an expert in a lot of different fields. Especially ones that keep a lot of bulls.

That's a mixed metaphor stretched to breaking point.  Anyway, something about bulls.....

4 hours ago, Angry Ram said:

Waits for a link to the NASA website explaining why Bulls are destroying the climate. Farming is dangerous stuff now. He told me as much. ?

Did I tell you that?  Sorry it's not the link you were looking for, but I'd hate to disappoint and not give you anything to read.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/17102019/climate-change-meat-beef-dairy-methane-emissions-california

I know how enthusiastically you read all these from start to finish ?

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38 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

So you're acknowledging that the US recruit, train and arm these assets when it suits their interests, and then kill them once they somehow turn those skills/weaponery against them? Have you figured out who is really to blame yet though?

Keogh?

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32 minutes ago, Norman said:

I do feel sorry for all of you who are wishing for WWIII just so you can be proven right in your own heads over Trump. 

Must be a terrible place to be put in. 

Mind you, you can look forward to Brexit and emergency budgets, lack of medicine, not being able to fly etc. 

And if that doesn't prove you were correct, you can look forward to the world ending in 7 years. 

Don't worry he will get four more years, four more years, etc etc  so he has plenty of time yet.

He stormed out of a NATO meeting because Boris, Macron and the Canadian bloke were talking about him … should Putin say something sarcastic about his hair God knows what will happen.

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36 minutes ago, Norman said:

I do feel sorry for all of you who are wishing for WWIII just so you can be proven right in your own heads over Trump. 

That's just in your head.

Quite a malign allegation to be throwing about so casually actually. 

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Just now, Highgate said:

That's just in your head.

Quite a malign allegation to be throwing about so casually actually. 

In your opinion. 

I put up with people throwing around terms such as racist and fascist. 

I'm sure you can put up with something that may or may not be written about yourself. 

True though, innit.

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23 minutes ago, Norman said:

In your opinion. 

I put up with people throwing around terms such as racist and fascist. 

I'm sure you can put up with something that may or may not be written about yourself. 

True though, innit.

No, no it isn't true at all.  But don't let that bother you when accusing others of not caring whether hundreds or thousands of people live or die.

 

On 08/01/2020 at 10:45, Highgate said:

It seems that there are no casualties as a result of the missile attacks. According to early reports anyway. 

This may be a chance for de-escalation.  Iran can claim (in Iran) that this was sufficient revenge for Soleimani and the US can consider the attacks ineffective and brush them off.  And everyone can put this episode behind them, with the only long-term effect being the Iranian regime will have gained more support at home and domestic protests in Iran will subside for some time.   These non-lethal missile attacks could be the best thing that could have happened.   Too optimistic ?

That's me wishing for war yesterday apparently.

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28 minutes ago, Norman said:

In your opinion. 

I put up with people throwing around terms such as racist and fascist. 

I'm sure you can put up with something that may or may not be written about yourself. 

True though, innit.

You are not capable of rising above it and not indulging in scurrilous accusations?

Right wingers on here have cried foul about name calling, yet can't resist suggesting that some people actually want war.

Grow up.

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1 hour ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

You are not capable of rising above it and not indulging in scurrilous accusations?

Right wingers on here have cried foul about name calling, yet can't resist suggesting that some people actually want war.

Grow up.

I don't think anyone wants a world war, more worried that a certain person will drop us into one because his housekeeper will have not gotten the cookie dough ice cream in, or his hair gets singed by the fire while its drying on its stand.

Anyway, if there is a world war I guess it will up the socialists to win it …. you know, like last time.?

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