King Kevin Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Christ on a bike – it’s carnage on Labour twitter. I’m unfollowing people at a rate of knots and feel like I’m escaping a cult! It’s no secret that I supported Corbyn, but it’s like people have learned nothing from the last 4 years. Good policies count for nothing if you can’t articulate the message in a balanced way, and the mainstream media will destroy you if you try and appear radical. Starmer is the only obvious choice. Much as I’d like to see a female leader, I just think none of them have the charisma to pull it off. Meanwhile Labour twitter is going mad about Starmer not being radical enough and questioning every element of his left wing credentials. God this is depressing Not for us Tories. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Christ on a bike – it’s carnage on Labour twitter. I’m unfollowing people at a rate of knots and feel like I’m escaping a cult! It’s no secret that I supported Corbyn, but it’s like people have learned nothing from the last 4 years. Good policies count for nothing if you can’t articulate the message in a balanced way, and the mainstream media will destroy you if you try and appear radical. Starmer is the only obvious choice. Much as I’d like to see a female leader, I just think none of them have the charisma to pull it off. Meanwhile Labour twitter is going mad about Starmer not being radical enough and questioning every element of his left wing credentials. God this is depressing I would imagine that's how most of the non-Boris supporting Tories felt as well. How many elections does a far (or at least further) left Labour party have to lose before they realise that they need someone moderate in charge instead of the student union placard politics of the last 5 years?. You're right, it is depressing that we could very well end up with another 5 years of ineffective opposition to Boris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 42 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Christ on a bike – it’s carnage on Labour twitter. I’m unfollowing people at a rate of knots and feel like I’m escaping a cult! Come on own up, who has hacked @SchtivePesley's account ? Before you know it you'll be labelled as a Nazi like some of us on here just cos we like to question stuff and not automatically follow the far left dogma. Welcome to the darkside ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 42 minutes ago, King Kevin said: Not for us Tories. ? It doesn't matter which side of the fence you sit on, it should concern all of us that our current government has no effective opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: It doesn't matter which side of the fence you sit on, it should concern all of us that our current government has no effective opposition. I agree but the fact remains that Labour just don't get that this country will never elect a government that far left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, SchtivePesley said: Much as I’d like to see a female leader, I just think none of them have the charisma to pull it off Not even Rebecca Long-Bailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, BriggRam said: Not even Rebecca Long-Bailey I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Norman said: I would. Wrong un Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Norman said: I would. I have, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Corbynista’s and other lefties don’t seem to have learnt their lesson after the general election. A lot of them are coming out and saying the Labour Party HAVE to have a female leader, preferably Rebecca Long- Bailey, why must the leader be female? Shouldn’t the best candidate be the most important rather than ticking boxes? If the best labour candidate is female then fair enough, but don’t select them just because they’re female and appeasing the PC brigade then moan when we get smashed in future general elections . I couldn’t give a toss whether you’re male, female, black, white or any other ethnic minority, if you’re good enough, you’re good enough but don’t just pick them to appease the sjw’s, this is coming from a ‘leftie’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sexydadbod said: Corbynista’s and other lefties don’t seem to have learnt their lesson after the general election. A lot of them are coming out and saying the Labour Party HAVE to have a female leader, preferably Rebecca Long- Bailey, why must the leader be female? Shouldn’t the best candidate be the most important rather than ticking boxes? If the best labour leader is female then fair enough, but don’t select a leader just because they’re female and appeasing the PC brigade then moan when we get smashed in future general elections . I couldn’t give a toss whether you’re male, female, black, white or any other ethnic minority, if you’re good enough, you’re good enough but don’t just pick them to appease the sjw’s, this is coming from a ‘leftie’ 'we all agree'. Says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, Sexydadbod said: Corbynista’s and other lefties don’t seem to have learnt their lesson after the general election. A lot of them are coming out and saying the Labour Party HAVE to have a female leader, preferably Rebecca Long- Bailey, why must the leader be female? Shouldn’t the best candidate be the most important rather than ticking boxes? If the best labour candidate is female then fair enough, but don’t select them just because they’re female and appeasing the PC brigade then moan when we get smashed in future general elections . I couldn’t give a toss whether you’re male, female, black, white or any other ethnic minority, if you’re good enough, you’re good enough but don’t just pick them to appease the sjw’s, this is coming from a ‘leftie’ Welcome to the Culture War that infects everything - from trivial BAFTA's that will only give awards to shows that meet diversity targets regardless of quality to more important issues such as picking the leader of the opposition based on ticking a box rather than quality to lead/oppose the Tories. What an age we live in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, BriggRam said: Not even Rebecca Long-Bailey 1 hour ago, Norman said: I would. 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: I have, I think. Thought you had the same leaning as this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, 1of4 said: Thought you had the same leaning as this guy. It's called diversity, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, 1of4 said: Thought you had the same leaning as this guy. Not fussy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 hours ago, SchtivePesley said: Christ on a bike – it’s carnage on Labour twitter. I’m unfollowing people at a rate of knots and feel like I’m escaping a cult! It’s no secret that I supported Corbyn, but it’s like people have learned nothing from the last 4 years. Good policies count for nothing if you can’t articulate the message in a balanced way, and the mainstream media will destroy you if you try and appear radical. Starmer is the only obvious choice. Much as I’d like to see a female leader, I just think none of them have the charisma to pull it off. Meanwhile Labour twitter is going mad about Starmer not being radical enough and questioning every element of his left wing credentials. God this is depressing He's too posh for me, with his fancy dan toolmaker dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, maxjam said: Welcome to the Culture War that infects everything - from trivial BAFTA's that will only give awards to shows that meet diversity targets regardless of quality to more important issues such as picking the leader of the opposition based on ticking a box rather than quality to lead/oppose the Tories. What an age we live in... Life must be hard getting so worked up by a culture war then exists mostly in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Life must be hard getting so worked up by a culture war then exists mostly in your head. And mine. I think the examples @Norman has given sum it up quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: And mine. I think the examples @Norman has given sum it up quite well. The world has been badly run by egotistical men for too long. About time women were given a go in charge. It would be funny watching Johnson lose the plot when debating with someone he assumes is a maid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: And mine. I think the examples @Norman has given sum it up quite well. Maybe a woman wouldn't be so quick with the war references either. Culture 'War' ffs. We must never surrender to these people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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