Topram Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: This early business Cocu spoke of, not happening really is it? I bet he is frustrated. He’ll be more frustrated if we end up with panic loans like Paterson again! Still plenty of time yet though, not many teams have made signings
MACKWORTHRAM Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 I'm pretty sure I read that Wes Morgan is out for 2 weeks. Leicester might just be waiting till he's fit before letting Benkovic leave. Not always Derby's fault. You can't sign someone that a team won't let go till they've got someone fit or bought someone in. We're only 8 days into January.
S8TY Posted January 8, 2020 Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, MACKWORTHRAM said: I'm pretty sure I read that Wes Morgan is out for 2 weeks. Leicester might just be waiting till he's fit before letting Benkovic leave. Not always Derby's fault. You can't sign someone that a team won't let go till they've got someone fit or bought someone in. We're only 8 days into January. The transfer window seems more difficult each window....I remember Rowett saying how difficult it is to get a signing over the line with agents sticking there oar in and complications regarding wages terms etc..... I'm pretty sure it is just as frustrating for Cocu and lets hope our negotiating team are good.....Nketiah looks a good prospect and thought we might've been in for him, Sinclair is in Preston apparently so he's not on our radar...hopefully we have a few irons in the fire but not entirely confident about our recruitment team as we ended up with Dowell,Hamer and Paterson last window
Sidd10 Posted January 9, 2020 Posted January 9, 2020 He was due to come here but Benkovic is off to Man United on loan due to their injury crisis. Maguire out for a lengthy period now
duncanjwitham Posted January 9, 2020 Posted January 9, 2020 14 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: This early business Cocu spoke of, not happening really is it? I bet he is frustrated. Arguably, we've already improved the average ability in the squad massively by getting rid of Paterson and Dowell...
NottsRam77 Posted January 9, 2020 Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, duncanjwitham said: Arguably, we've already improved the average ability in the squad massively by getting rid of Paterson and Dowell... I was going to put a laughing reaction to your post then realised it’s actually true and just a good point lol
Bubbles Posted January 9, 2020 Posted January 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: Arguably, we've already improved the average ability in the squad massively by getting rid of Paterson and Dowell... Pato wasn't that bad tho lol, better than Zoon, and in the limited appearances he made he looked just as good as Lawrence.
rynny Posted January 9, 2020 Posted January 9, 2020 13 hours ago, Sidd10 said: He was due to come here but Benkovic is off to Man United on loan due to their injury crisis. Maguire out for a lengthy period now I can see Leicester helping out a team that they are challenging with for a top 4 spot.
Coneheadjohn Posted January 9, 2020 Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, rynny said: I can see Leicester helping out a team that they are challenging with for a top 4 spot. Can you imagine the Man Utd fans reaction to signing Benkovic? Isn’t Smalling on loan in Italy having a great season?
Comrade 86 Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Van Cone De Head said: Can you imagine the Man Utd fans reaction to signing Benkovic? Isn’t Smalling on loan in Italy having a great season? Can't say a whole lot while they've got Donk playing at CB
Sidd10 Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 9 hours ago, rynny said: I can see Leicester helping out a team that they are challenging with for a top 4 spot. You actually think Man United are challenging for a top 4 spot?
Ambitious Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 22 hours ago, Squid said: Pato wasn't that bad tho lol, better than Zoon, and in the limited appearances he made he looked just as good as Lawrence. In comparison, Paterson and Lawrence aren't too dissimilar. Lawrence has been marginally better, sure, but it's not as clear cut as people may think. Paterson - 203 games in the Championship - 30 goals and 31 assists | 91 games in last 2.5 seasons - 11 goals and 14 assists Lawrence - 188 games in the Championship - 31 goals and 30 assists | 99 games in last 2.5 seasons - 17 goals and 9 assists Jozefzoon - 95 games in the Championship - 10 goals and 11 assists | 77 games in last 2.5 seasons - 9 goals and 9 assists When you compare them to other good wingers in our division, not even the best like Bowen: Jed Wallace - 127 games in the Championship - 20 goals and 18 assists | 109 games in last 2.5 seasons - 20 goals and 18 assists Joe Lolley - 159 games in the Championship - 26 goals and 22 assists | 85 games in last 2.5 seasons - 18 goals and 18 assists Adam Reach - 251 games in the Championship - 26 goals and 38 assists | 114 games in last 2.5 seasons - 13 goals and 23 assists I know a winger's play isn't just about the numbers he produces, but it's absolutely a key part of it - it shows that Lawrence is the best we have and it's still no more than okay at this level.
NottsRam77 Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ambitious said: In comparison, Paterson and Lawrence aren't too dissimilar. Lawrence has been marginally better, sure, but it's not as clear cut as people may think. Paterson - 203 games in the Championship - 30 goals and 31 assists | 91 games in last 2.5 seasons - 11 goals and 14 assists Lawrence - 188 games in the Championship - 31 goals and 30 assists | 99 games in last 2.5 seasons - 17 goals and 9 assists Jozefzoon - 95 games in the Championship - 10 goals and 11 assists | 77 games in last 2.5 seasons - 9 goals and 9 assists When you compare them to other good wingers in our division, not even the best like Bowen: Jed Wallace - 127 games in the Championship - 20 goals and 18 assists | 109 games in last 2.5 seasons - 20 goals and 18 assists Joe Lolley - 159 games in the Championship - 26 goals and 22 assists | 85 games in last 2.5 seasons - 18 goals and 18 assists Adam Reach - 251 games in the Championship - 26 goals and 38 assists | 114 games in last 2.5 seasons - 13 goals and 23 assists I know a winger's play isn't just about the numbers he produces, but it's absolutely a key part of it - it shows that Lawrence is the best we have and it's still no more than okay at this level. Can we just bring back simmo lol
rynny Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Sidd10 said: You actually think Man United are challenging for a top 4 spot? The team 5th isn't challenging for the place above?
JoeDerby Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Heard something from a source that works at the club that this will be the first signing on a season long loan next week. Just tying a few loose ends.
Ramslaar Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 On 08/01/2020 at 20:23, S8TY said: The transfer window seems more difficult each window....I remember Rowett saying how difficult it is to get a signing over the line with agents sticking there oar in and complications regarding wages terms etc..... I'm pretty sure it is just as frustrating for Cocu and lets hope our negotiating team are good.....Nketiah looks a good prospect and thought we might've been in for him, Sinclair is in Preston apparently so he's not on our radar...hopefully we have a few irons in the fire but not entirely confident about our recruitment team as we ended up with Dowell,Hamer and Paterson last window Yes but you need to understand the reasons why we ended up with them.mostly down to lampards mucking about but also we were unable to get our first target (which could be for many reasons). The recruitment team offer up 5-6players that may be avalible then you have to go with the one you can actually get.Paterson i heard was about far from 1st choice after that the others were either to expensive,didnt want to come here or even have crazy inserts in the loan contract that ment they had to play( even if they are no good) or club got heavy fine.it can be so complicated.but we dont see all that.im not saying we have the best recruitment team and i have also been disappointed but there is so much more to it than we think.
Ramslaar Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, JoeDerby said: Heard something from a source that works at the club that this will be the first signing on a season long loan next week. Just tying a few loose ends. Yes its the lad from Chelsea.
rynny Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 14 hours ago, Van Cone De Head said: Can you imagine the Man Utd fans reaction to signing Benkovic? Isn’t Smalling on loan in Italy having a great season? Yeah, he wants to stay there though
Coneheadjohn Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, rynny said: Yeah, he wants to stay there though I don’t blame him.
Animal is a Ram Posted January 10, 2020 Posted January 10, 2020 Rodgers: we'll let him go, if we can get one in. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/Derby-county-transfer-news-benkovic-3725836
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