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Anon

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46 minutes ago, cannable said:

Always thought this excuse was a cop out though. Spain won the Euros in spite of Mourinho turning the Barça and Real Madrid contingent against each other

The Golden Generation didn’t win anything because they played dinosaur football and we shoehorned the best midfielders in there however we could. 

Carrick should have 40 of Gerrard and Lampard’s caps and Scholes another 20, but there we are.

Spain had Casillas as captain, who was willing to stand up to Mourinho, and as punishment Mourinho bombed him out of Madrid and ruined his legacy by spreading lies about him. None of our lot were brave enough to do that.

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BBC has pointed out to me that this game is a landmark being the 1,000th game for England

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50340459

After seeing the top 10 teams for 'providing England players' I was intrigued to know where we sat - And according to a 2015 article in the telegraph we were (at that point) 11th!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/11508860/How-many-players-has-your-club-provided-for-England.html

So - Do you think 4 years later we'd still be there? I don't think we've sent anyone to the England setup in that time (we might have got credit for Mount had he played when on loan with us) but not sure how many below us might have over-taken

We were on 39 total - Joint are West Ham (39) and then just behind are Forest (37), Newcastle (35) Sheff Utd (34), Wolves (34), Southampton (33) and Leeds (31) - Could Burnley have jumped us in that time from 24? or Leicester from 16?

 

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17 minutes ago, cheron85 said:

BBC has pointed out to me that this game is a landmark being the 1,000th game for England

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50340459

After seeing the top 10 teams for 'providing England players' I was intrigued to know where we sat - And according to a 2015 article in the telegraph we were (at that point) 11th!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/11508860/How-many-players-has-your-club-provided-for-England.html

So - Do you think 4 years later we'd still be there? I don't think we've sent anyone to the England setup in that time (we might have got credit for Mount had he played when on loan with us) but not sure how many below us might have over-taken

We were on 39 total - Joint are West Ham (39) and then just behind are Forest (37), Newcastle (35) Sheff Utd (34), Wolves (34), Southampton (33) and Leeds (31) - Could Burnley have jumped us in that time from 24? or Leicester from 16?

 

Debutants since your article (Apr 2015): Dier, Ings, Alli, Vardy, Ryan Mason, Kane, Cresswell, Rashford, Drinkwater, Lingard, Heaton, Rose, Solanke, Cork, Abraham, Loftus-Cheek, Gomez, Winks, Maguire ,Trippier, Ward-Prowse, Redmond, Pickford, Keane, Callum Wilson, Dunk, Sancho, Chilwell, Alexander-Arnold, Tarkowski, Pope, Cook, Chalobah, Alex McCarthy, Mings, Hudson-Odoi, Rice, Mount

 

Here's a similar one based on counties and regions (Nov 2016)

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/18804/10649832/where-are-england-international-players-born

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1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Debutants since your article (Apr 2015): Dier, Ings, Alli, Vardy, Ryan Mason, Kane, Cresswell, Rashford, Drinkwater, Lingard, Heaton, Rose, Solanke, Cork, Abraham, Loftus-Cheek, Gomez, Winks, Maguire ,Trippier, Ward-Prowse, Redmond, Pickford, Keane, Callum Wilson, Dunk, Sancho, Chilwell, Alexander-Arnold, Tarkowski, Pope, Cook, Chalobah, Alex McCarthy, Mings, Hudson-Odoi, Rice, Mount

 

Here's a similar one based on counties and regions (Nov 2016)

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/18804/10649832/where-are-england-international-players-born

So Derbyshire is 11th in that table too, with 35. 

Name those Derbyshire born players. 

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3 hours ago, cheron85 said:

BBC has pointed out to me that this game is a landmark being the 1,000th game for England

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50340459

After seeing the top 10 teams for 'providing England players' I was intrigued to know where we sat - And according to a 2015 article in the telegraph we were (at that point) 11th!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/11508860/How-many-players-has-your-club-provided-for-England.html

So - Do you think 4 years later we'd still be there? I don't think we've sent anyone to the England setup in that time (we might have got credit for Mount had he played when on loan with us) but not sure how many below us might have over-taken

We were on 39 total - Joint are West Ham (39) and then just behind are Forest (37), Newcastle (35) Sheff Utd (34), Wolves (34), Southampton (33) and Leeds (31) - Could Burnley have jumped us in that time from 24? or Leicester from 16?

 

There's a good archive of England players over here:
http://www.englandfootballonline.com/TeamClubs/MostPlyrs.html

They put us at 14th for players capped while playing at the club, with West Ham having pulled ahead of us, and also including Corinthians who aren't included on the Telegraph's list. It doesn't count players called up but not capped, like Mason Mount or Frank Fielding were when they were with us, though.

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11 hours ago, JfR said:

There's a good archive of England players over here:
http://www.englandfootballonline.com/TeamClubs/MostPlyrs.html

They put us at 14th for players capped while playing at the club, with West Ham having pulled ahead of us, and also including Corinthians who aren't included on the Telegraph's list. It doesn't count players called up but not capped, like Mason Mount or Frank Fielding were when they were with us, though.

Ahhh that's brilliant! Love that they've listed every player too! Looks like Seth's 17 minutes in 2000 is our last appearance

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3 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

I remember watching it on TV and feeling sorry for the ones in the stadium. 

Optimism was high amongst us fans as we held them for the crucial first 70 seconds......?

Mind you, we were torched on the German lagers which eased the pain somewhat and at the time there were hardly any ussr fans so we just got the poo taken by the German people....

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Southgate saying he's going to name an even younger side than the one that beat spain and had an average age of just over 23.....

Sterling dropped (but will be back for Kosovo)

And there's apparently no truth in the made up rumour that to avoid any hint of racism, we will be referring to our opponents as Monte-personofcolour.......?

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