admira Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 By my reckoning, we are keeping the EFL 'we hate everything about Derby' department busy with four investigations under our belt but the first couple seem to have gone quiet. Have they been settled (with The Rams quietly found not guilty) or are they ongoing? Rooney transfer and 32 red involvement Keogh v Forest ground staff incident Mel stadium sale Stadium evacuation v Cardiff. I wonder what we will do "wrong" next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Did the Sam Rush thing get settled out of court? It is starting to get ridiculous how many off-the-field stories and scandals we’ve had in the last 5 seasons. More incidents than memorable games, which is depressing. Not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, admira said: By my reckoning, we are keeping the EFL 'we hate everything about Derby' department busy with four investigations under our belt but the first couple seem to have gone quiet. Have they been settled (with The Rams quietly found not guilty) or are they ongoing? Rooney transfer and 32 red involvement Keogh v Forest ground staff incident Mel stadium sale Stadium evacuation v Cardiff. I wonder what we will do "wrong" next? Not sure there is one around the Rooney transfer? The Keogh one has gone quiet, assume its just gone away. If anything comes of the Mel stadium sale then every club where the stadium is not owned outright by the club itself will have to be investigated, and any club who have sponsorship deals, or had them, that have been off the back of the club ownership will have to be investigated, that has to include Forest for their fridge shirt sponsorships and also cardiff i would imagine for their current shirt sponsorship as that has to be as a direct result of Tans ownership. The evacuation, If anything did come of this it would be a total joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 The EFL,got to love them. Steve Dales ok but Mel Morris can get ready! I honestly hope that a proper and thorough investigation takes place so a line can be drawn under it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Maybe it is just the media blowing things out of proportion, just to keep us relevant ready for when Rooney arrives and their inevitable attacks of him ramp up a level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 This is nothing. We used to get kicked out of europe, and parade new players we hadn't actually signed, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, RamNut said: This is nothing. We used to get kicked out of europe, and parade new players we hadn't actually signed, Get games abandoned due to pitch invasions sign players with forged passports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 And the manager would get suspended for telling lies in court..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Force managers of other clubs to resign coz our owner, and theirs, had told him to sell their best player to us. Players on strike coz the Chairman forced the manager to resign for going on telly. Sign, but not sign, but maybe sign a couple of Czech lads (not sure if this is the ref in RamNut's post or if that is an Iain Storey Moore one - we did have previous) Manager in a porno, this time it's serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Surely the FA investigating the stadium evacuation is the one that makes most sense. People's safety has to come first. No one would have an issue if it turned out to be a more severe incident which hopefully we never have to encounter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Think the Rooney one can’t reach any decision before January when he joins so that investigation is gonna drag on. Wasn’t aware the EFL were looking at the Keogh incident, thought that was an internal investigation between us and forest, so think that will probably have been resolved by now. Personally cant see what we’ve as a club done wrong on any of them, frankly some of them stink of the EFL trying to get back at Mel for the argument over the rights deal. Ones like the evacuation seem too ridiculous to be investigating to even be true! The EFL are gonna have to come up with a better excuse to punish us, which is undoubtedly what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Paul71 said: The evacuation, If anything did come of this it would be a total joke. I can only imagine such a thing would be a routine incident investigation which would follow any notable H&S incident - and as the club efficiently and safely evacuated the ground when the risk was identified (I assume as per the ground H&S procedures) that's an exercise in demonstrating to HSE (and anyone else with a stake in this) the Health and Safety was dealt with properly. Most good H&S practice will investigate near misses and incidents on a basis of "what happened, how was it dealt with, could it be dealt wit better in the future" (Good health and Safety is 95% good common sense, you risk assess the situation whenever you cross the road, it's not rocket science - sorry, rant over) Although if Cardiff had lost, I've zero doubt Colin would be bumping his gums about how that's why his side lost and Derby must be investigated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Think the Rooney one can’t reach any decision before January when he joins so that investigation is gonna drag on. Wasn’t aware the EFL were looking at the Keogh incident, thought that was an internal investigation between us and forest, so think that will probably have been resolved by now. Personally cant see what we’ve as a club done wrong on any of them, frankly some of them stink of the EFL trying to get back at Mel for the argument over the rights deal. Ones like the evacuation seem too ridiculous to be investigating to even be true! The EFL are gonna have to come up with a better excuse to punish us, which is undoubtedly what they want. I don't think the ground evacuation is as trivial as you think. The police will be wanting to know how a flare managed to be brought into the ground and the EFL acting on reports, possibly looking into negligence by stewards, just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: I don't think the ground evacuation is as trivial as you think. The police will be wanting to know how a flare managed to be brought into the ground and the EFL acting on reports, possibly looking into negligence by stewards, just a thought. If they were investigating how it happened then I’d agree an investigation would be somewhat valid as flares shouldn’t be getting into the ground- though it’s not easy to stop sometimes. I could understand a punishment in that case if our security was deemed not up to scratch. But from what I can tell, they’re investigating “our decision to evacuate” which is a different thing entirely. They’re trying to suggest there wasn’t enough danger for us to evacuate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: If they were investigating how it happened then I’d agree an investigation would be somewhat valid as flares shouldn’t be getting into the ground- though it’s not easy to stop sometimes. I could understand a punishment in that case if our security was deemed not up to scratch. But from what I can tell, they’re investigating “our decision to evacuate” which is a different thing entirely. They’re trying to suggest there wasn’t enough danger for us to evacuate. If that's the case then the club can't win either way, with H&S being what it is nowadays, people would have been asking why we didn't evacuate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: If that's the case then the club can't win either way, with H&S being what it is nowadays, people would have been asking why we didn't evacuate Exactly, that’s why it seems so ridiculous to me, surely better to be too safe than not safe enough with the regulations in place?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Surely the flare just set off the smoke alarms and it all kicked in telling us to get out?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 and Robert Maxwell was our chairman ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Paul71 said: Not sure there is one around the Rooney transfer? The Keogh one has gone quiet, assume its just gone away. If anything comes of the Mel stadium sale then every club where the stadium is not owned outright by the club itself will have to be investigated, and any club who have sponsorship deals, or had them, that have been off the back of the club ownership will have to be investigated, that has to include Forest for their fridge shirt sponsorships and also cardiff i would imagine for their current shirt sponsorship as that has to be as a direct result of Tans ownership. The evacuation, If anything did come of this it would be a total joke. They often find one club guilty, ignore the others and hope that it is a lesson to stop others doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Maybe it is just the media blowing things out of proportion, just to keep us relevant ready for when Rooney arrives and their inevitable attacks of him ramp up a level. Maybe it’s other clubs and their fans blowing things out of proportion, so when Rooney arrives, effectively on free because of Mel’s shrewd business and they’re all green with envy; enough mud will have stuck to damage our season you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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