TibshelfRam Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 23 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: Or maybe with Scottish football being so good this might at some point be reflected in the achievements of the Scottish national team, you never know??? Across all leagues the evidence shows that success is down predominantly to the size of player budgets, not totally, but that is the main factor. When you look at the player budgets for the likes of St Mirren, Dundee, Ross County, St Johnstone etc it gives you a real indication of how good that club is..... Yeah, of course, because the success of a national team is directly related to the success of that league. For the past twenty years, the Premier League has had the most money and the largest reputation globally. It's also had its fair share of club success (for several years, English clubs were fairly dominant on the continent). So, presumably, England have been cleaning up on the international stage? France are now the best side in the world. Their clubs aren't exactly dominant. Croatia are runners up in the world cup. How many Croatian clubs have been successful? Belgium? I could go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, TibshelfRam said: Yeah, of course, because the success of a national team is directly related to the success of that league. For the past twenty years, the Premier League has had the most money and the largest reputation globally. It's also had its fair share of club success (for several years, English clubs were fairly dominant on the continent). So, presumably, England have been cleaning up on the international stage? France are now the best side in the world. Their clubs aren't exactly dominant. Croatia are runners up in the world cup. How many Croatian clubs have been successful? Belgium? I could go on. I didn't bring the success of the national team in to the debate, I was responding to someone who did. Totally agree, very little relevance to the standard of a domestic league. How many of those Croatian players play in their domestic league? Not many I would think. The fact that 39 year old Kenny Miller was still playing in the SPL up until recently is probably a greater indicator.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Looks like more clubs coming in for Celtics Tierney. Lowe was linked to Celtic a while ago. If Tierney was sold for close to £20M, how much do you think we could wring out of Celtic? Any players we might like to swap for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 57 minutes ago, Dean_Saunders said: Looks like more clubs coming in for Celtics Tierney. Lowe was linked to Celtic a while ago. If Tierney was sold for close to £20M, how much do you think we could wring out of Celtic? Any players we might like to swap for? You have to ask just how good was Lowe in Scotland, where would he rank in LBs in the Scottish leagues last season? If he was the second or third best left back, I'd want 5 million of that 20 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostedRam Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: You have to ask just how good was Lowe in Scotland, where would he rank in LBs in the Scottish leagues last season? If he was the second or third best left back, I'd want 5 million of that 20 million. Finally a decent article from the DT. Shows he faired well in Scotland https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/Derby-county-max-lowe-championship-3101038 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Dean_Saunders said: Looks like more clubs coming in for Celtics Tierney. Lowe was linked to Celtic a while ago. If Tierney was sold for close to £20M, how much do you think we could wring out of Celtic? Any players we might like to swap for? Celtic are lining up Basham from Sheffield United as a replacement if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Sparkle said: Celtic are lining up Basham from Sheffield United as a replacement if that helps. Also linked with Genk's Uronen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, FrostedRam said: Finally a decent article from the DT. Shows he faired well in Scotland https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/Derby-county-max-lowe-championship-3101038 Agreed. And you'll notice that for once it's not written by Steve Nicholson. I think there's a relationship there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Celtic are lining up Basham from Sheffield United as a replacement if that helps. Basham is a right sided centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Very good article. It shows that his numbers were amongst the best in the league, just behind Tierney, who is going courted by Arsenal for £20+m. If we sell him now, I would be annoyed as I was with Thomas. At least Thomas had some undesirable personal attributes that made me think it wasn’t about his ability. Lowe deserves to compete with Malone, Forsyth for that spot in the team. If he comes up short then we sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirelines Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I’d start Lowe this season. Stick with him if he’s a bit shonky in his first few games again. Really like the idea of him and Bogle on the flanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 47 minutes ago, Carnero said: Basham is a right sided centre back. Currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 I watched him closely in the pre season last year thought he looked a terrific prospect .He didn't look so good on the step up but big mistake if we give him away methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Currently He's got electric pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TibshelfRam Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Sparkle said: Currently A 30 year old, pretty slow, right sided centre half on the verge of a breakthrough as a gung ho, creative, attacking left back. If Neil Lennon can achieve that then there's nothing he can't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 On 19/07/2019 at 08:44, Ambitious said: Lowe deserves to compete with Malone, Forsyth for that spot in the team. If he comes up short then we sell him. I suspect these links to Celtic/Scotland are pre-Cocu - I would imagine as with all the others he's getting a fresh chance to show what he can do and try to establish himself as our first choice LB Just ask Anya what a fresh start is like On 19/07/2019 at 10:34, TibshelfRam said: A 30 year old, pretty slow, right sided centre half on the verge of a breakthrough as a gung ho, creative, attacking left back. If Neil Lennon can achieve that then there's nothing he can't do. Didn't he play on the RHS of a back 3? I feel like he scored against us from open play coming in on the back post and was a pretty potent attacking player from that position? Although overall I agree - I ain't gonna be a LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Mel said the other day that the trend was for younger players to command larger fees and older heads becoming more affordable. I'd guess we'd want some relatively serious wedge for him now (£2m?), but if he could get himself a year of Championship football and do well he's suddenly a serious asset. Made far, far, too many mistakes at the start of last season. If he's learned a bit last year (surely?) I'd look to give him a chance. As someone said above, Bogle and Lowe together down the flanks could give real balance and attacking threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 On 19/07/2019 at 09:32, Will Hughes Hair said: He's got electric pace. Can't resist a pun, can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, Needlesh said: Can't resist a pun, can you? Come on @Boycie - open season on your own turf. Fill your boots lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Needlesh said: Come on @Boycie - open season on your own turf. Fill your boots lad. Ohm my god like don’t drag me into your childish word plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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