The Politics Thread 2019

[Norman]

18 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

Grown men laughing at a woman with diabetes for making adjustments to her footwear to maximise her own comfort. That's nice

"God, Diane Abbot - why don't you wear NORMAL shoes that rub, so you get a necrotic ulcer and have to have your leg amputated"

 

She should have asked for the right shoe then. Not the left. She's going to get blisters and ulcers now. 

[Stive Pesley]

7 minutes ago, 1of4 said:

All voting in a general election as to be made compulsory. Then provide the option on the ballot paper for casting a vote for none of the candidates.

Compulsory voting is not a bad idea - as long as there is an option for people to formally opt out with a valid reason

[Stive Pesley]

2 minutes ago, Norman said:

She should have asked for the right shoe then. Not the left. She's going to get blisters and ulcers now. 

So we're adding "telling a woman how to dress" to your misogynistic repertoire are we?

[Uptherams]

8 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

I'm the one that "looks silly" but you're the one mocking a woman with diabetes and somehow equating an individuals choice of what to wear on their feet with competence to govern.

OK boomer

Classic identity politics.

No pal, people aren't mocking her diabetes. 

 

[Uptherams]

3 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

So we're adding "telling a woman how to dress" to your misogynistic repertoire are we?

?? You're on a roll. Proper White Knight stuff. You do realise people don't actually think you are as nice as you poorly attempt to make out with this guff. 

[Norman]

9 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

So we're adding "telling a woman how to dress" to your misogynistic repertoire are we?

She needs a new weave, as well.

She only got where she is from ducking Jeremy, anyway. 

[Sith Happens]

28 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

Grown men laughing at a woman with diabetes for making adjustments to her footwear to maximise her own comfort. That's nice

"God, Diane Abbot - why don't you wear NORMAL shoes that rub, so you get a necrotic ulcer and have to have your leg amputated"

 

Ok, prepared to have an open mind, and I feel for her, along with anyone with a serious illness. But I just cannot visualise a situation where wearing a left shoe on your right foot is possibly going to maximise her comfort. Have gone away and googled and agree it would seem lots of diabetics wear special shoes which have more room, more comfort, dont pinch etc....just seen nothing that suggests putting on a left shoe on your right foot will provide comfort and relief.

Happy to be proven wrong though.

Think you are being a bit harsh on people finding it funny. If it was Boris or any other Tory MP with two left shoes on you would be all over it.

 

[King Kevin]

34 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

Grown men laughing at a woman with diabetes for making adjustments to her footwear to maximise her own comfort. That's nice

"God, Diane Abbot - why don't you wear NORMAL shoes that rub, so you get a necrotic ulcer and have to have your leg amputated"

 

They're laughing at a bigoted racist who can't add up that might be Home Secretary [god forbid] tomorrow not because shes got diabetes .

Abbott deserves every bit of abuse going in my book  and there ain't many people I feel that way about.

[Rev]

1 minute ago, Paul71 said:

Ok, prepared to have an open mind, and I feel for her, along with anyone with a serious illness. But I just cannot visualise a situation where wearing a left shoe on your right foot is possibly going to maximise her comfort. Have gone away and googled and agree it would seem lots of diabetics wear special shoes which have more room, more comfort, dont pinch etc....just seen nothing that suggests putting on a left shoe on your right foot will provide comfort and relief.

Happy to be proven wrong though.

Think you are being a bit harsh on people finding it funny. If it was Boris or any other Tory MP with two left shoes on you would be all over it.

 

I don't have diabetes, but I do have an incredibly painful leg ulcer at the minute.

If only I'd known wearing my shoes on the wrong feet could have prevented it!

 

[Wolfie]

God it’s refreshing to have some different news on the news channels instead of the usual Brexit & “who can lie the most” competition?!

[Wolfie]

1 hour ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

I hope you were successful

Awwww shucks, thanks matey. 

[A Ram for All Seasons]

3 hours ago, Curtains said:

When BT gets nationalised it’s a big possibility that Labour won’t fund the pension deficit

So you would prefer somebody like Robert Maxwell or Philip Green to look after your pension money rather than the British state?

[King Kevin]

2 minutes ago, A Ram for All Seasons said:

So you would prefer somebody like Robert Maxwell or Philip Green to look after your pension money rather than the British state?

For what it's worth BT took a pension contribution holiday and took the opportunity to modernise the network with the money saved .One of the main reasons for the pension deficit .Ask me how I know.

[Stive Pesley]

30 minutes ago, Uptherams said:

You do realise people don't actually think you are as nice as you poorly attempt to make out 

This may come as a surprise to you, but I actually couldn't care less what a load of old reactionary gits on a football forum think of me.

Change is coming boomer - maybe not this time, but soon enough

[Stive Pesley]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/new-maps-show-staggering-political-divide-between-generations-in-britain-a3930341.html

 

 

[DarkFruitsRam7]

3 hours ago, Paul71 said:

Basically saying anyone, including his family are monumentally stupid for not agreeing with him.

I disagree with his general outlook, but that’s not what he said.

He said that it was monumentally stupid of his parents to just shrug and say ‘Not our problem, we’ll be long gone anyway’ whenever their views were remotely challenged. I agree.

[Norman]

8 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

This may come as a surprise to you, but I actually couldn't care less what a load of old reactionary gits on a football forum think of me.

Change is coming boomer - maybe not this time, but soon enough

That graph will never change. 

[Sith Happens]

5 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said:

I disagree with his general outlook, but that’s not what he said.

He said that it was monumentally stupid of his parents to just shrug and say ‘Not our problem, we’ll be long gone anyway’ whenever their views were remotely challenged. I agree.

So he never used the words monumentally stupid when discussing people who didnt agree with him?

[Ghost of Clough]

12 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

This may come as a surprise to you, but I actually couldn't care less what a load of old reactionary gits on a football forum think of me.

Change is coming boomer - maybe not this time, but soon enough

 

7 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/new-maps-show-staggering-political-divide-between-generations-in-britain-a3930341.html

 

 

Anything to say on the pattern of people switching from Labour to Tory as they get older?  You'd most likely have almost identical breakdowns 40 years ago.

 

Edit: a quick google gave me this graph...

[A Ram for All Seasons]

11 minutes ago, King Kevin said:

For what it's worth BT took a pension contribution holiday and took the opportunity to modernise the network with the money saved .One of the main reasons for the pension deficit .Ask me how I know.

BT is a private company and, like many private companies, it is not averse to raiding its own pension fund and transferring as much of the risk as possible to the fund's members. My own company has done similar things, and new entrants have a much poorer deal than when I joined in the 1980s.

The Tories won't stop companies from raiding their own pension funds. In fact, they'd probabyl encourage it, given that most of their income comes from big finance.