Angry Ram Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Quality again from England. Southgate has really grown on me. He is everything the FA want and now what the supporters want. Loving the youth coming through. Golden generation? Been there so many times before but something is different here. So much talent for him to choose from and maybe not so many ego's. Class acts everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, GenBr said: Do we even need to bother with the rest of the qualifiers? The Czech Republic and Montenegro were the two best ranked opponents in our group at 44 and 46 respectively and we scored 5 goals against both of them. Kosovo are 130 and Bulgaria 48, so dont think we ate going to struggle against either. The qualification groupings are never competitive. Its just for tele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, RamNut said: The qualification groupings are never competitive. Its just for tele. They used to be competitive when only 16 teams qualified for the Euros, but now 24 are allowed in, its routine for Europe's big 6-8 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 12 hours ago, MuespachRam said: It’s coming home.. Kiss of Death... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Weird all the stuff about the racist chanting - I ddn't hear it myself on TV. Did anyone else? Not that I doubt the players/staff who reported it, just that the commentator said when Sterling cupped his ears that he hadn't heard any, and that Montenegro had no history of it. Must have been a minority (which is still too many) - just makes me sad because Montenegro is a beautiful place and the people seemed far too chilled to be racist ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Our group might be easy, but i think group J is even easier for Italy. They have two teams that arent even in the top 100 of the rankings... They should just do away with qualifying and have one big knockout tournament. At least it would be more interesting that way with potential upsets. Kazakstans victory over Scotland might actually have meant something in that scenario (although i dont know why a team from central asis is playing in the euros). 10 minutes ago, StivePesley said: Must have been a minority (which is still too many) - just makes me sad because Montenegro is a beautiful place and the people seemed far too chilled to be racist ? Its the Balkans. One of the most nationalistic places on the planet who all hate each other and pretend they dont speak virtually the same language. Outsiders stand even less chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, GenBr said: Its the Balkans. One of the most nationalistic places on the planet who all hate each other and pretend they dont speak virtually the same language. Outsiders stand even less chance. If it was Serbia then yeah - but all the Montenegrins we met seemed lovely AND embarassed by the war. They were essentially bullied into taking part by the Serbians who convinced them that the Croatians were going to steal their land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, StivePesley said: If it was Serbia then yeah - but all the Montenegrins we met seemed lovely AND embarassed by the war. They were essentially bullied into taking part by the Serbians who convinced them that the Croatians were going to steal their land. Of course they’re racist, even their countries name is racist. Can’t go round saying negro, ask Luis Suarez, it should probably be ‘BAME mountain’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, StivePesley said: If it was Serbia then yeah - but all the Montenegrins we met seemed lovely AND embarassed by the war. They were essentially bullied into taking part by the Serbians who convinced them that the Croatians were going to steal their land. Football matches always bring out the worst people. England certainly had its fair share of similar behaviour in the past. Id be embarrased as well if my country had taken part in a campaign of ethnic cleansing and attempted genocide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, StivePesley said: If it was Serbia then yeah - but all the Montenegrins we met seemed lovely AND embarassed by the war. They were essentially bullied into taking part by the Serbians who convinced them that the Croatians were going to steal their land. I went to Croatia and they seemed lovely. My brother who fought over there thinks they're as bad as each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, StivePesley said: If it was Serbia then yeah - but all the Montenegrins we met seemed lovely AND embarassed by the war. They were essentially bullied into taking part by the Serbians who convinced them that the Croatians were going to steal their land. Could you be any more credulous? Completely absolving one people of any responsibility for their part in a war based on nothing beyond your personal experience, whilst in the very same sentence writing off another nation as racists, liars, and propagandists. Amazing. Yes, there will absolutely have been a concerted propaganda campaign from the Serbs, but you're a fool if you think there weren't a sizable number of Montenegrins all too ready to swallow any excuse or that the Croats weren't using propaganda of their own. The Balkans is a hugely complicated region, swallowing the Serbia = bad, everyone else = good narrative is ridiculously naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Anon said: Could you be any more credulous? Completely absolving one people of any responsibility for their part in a war based on nothing beyond your personal experience, whilst in the very same sentence writing off another nation as racists, liars, and propagandists. Amazing. Yes, there will absolutely have been a concerted propaganda campaign from the Serbs, but you're a fool if you think there weren't a sizable number of Montenegrins all too ready to swallow any excuse or that the Croats weren't using propaganda of their own. The Balkans is a hugely complicated region, swallowing the Serbia = bad, everyone else = good narrative is ridiculously naive. Well yeah - it was just a passing comment on a football forum. I wasn't about to write a thesis. But thanks for the feedback. Sorry I made your sphincter pinch ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 back to the football , Sterling gets better every game , and i was impressed with Barkley, think we need to settle on a regular pair of full backs then we will be good to go , Southgate has got the nation falling back in love with the national team , long may it continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 hours ago, StivePesley said: Weird all the stuff about the racist chanting - I ddn't hear it myself on TV. Did anyone else? Not that I doubt the players/staff who reported it, just that the commentator said when Sterling cupped his ears that he hadn't heard any, and that Montenegro had no history of it. Must have been a minority (which is still too many) - just makes me sad because Montenegro is a beautiful place and the people seemed far too chilled to be racist ? Maybe it was those idiots with the Scottish flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 hours ago, StivePesley said: Weird all the stuff about the racist chanting - I ddn't hear it myself on TV. Did anyone else? Not that I doubt the players/staff who reported it, just that the commentator said when Sterling cupped his ears that he hadn't heard any, and that Montenegro had no history of it. Must have been a minority (which is still too many) - just makes me sad because Montenegro is a beautiful place and the people seemed far too chilled to be racist ? I heard it clear as day through the TV, not early doors but certainly after sterling’s goal there were clear monkey noises being made. Absolute disgrace, really is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Srg said: Doesn't really matter, takes 3 to get banned and the group will allow us to cope with a suspension if it ever gets that far. Quite liked it to be honest, shows they cared and weren't getting intimidated by everything from the late tackles, pull backs and racist chants. What, by taking a free kick before the ref blew his whistle? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 6 hours ago, StivePesley said: Weird all the stuff about the racist chanting - I ddn't hear it myself on TV. Did anyone else? Yes, I heard them making monkey noises in the second half, Sterling had received a long ball out on the wing. Would have been around 55/60 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 16 hours ago, therealhantsram said: They used to be competitive when only 16 teams qualified for the Euros, but now 24 are allowed in, its routine for Europe's big 6-8 teams. I’d disagree with that theory, the smaller nations have got better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 14 hours ago, HantsRam said: What, by taking a free kick before the ref blew his whistle? ? Yes of course. If that mob could imitate monkeys ? they could whistle like crows .... or referees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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