RoyMac5 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, David said: Repeat what you like but it's better to just simply say I don't rate X player and leave it there, when you start throwing out theories such as he's not good enough to play in his own position in a Micky mouse league, and then move on to that's "normally" the case, it can often be found to be a load of balls with facts and classic examples which you just laugh off. Anyhow it took me 2 minutes to discover that Blackman did play up top and finished the season there. It's 2 minutes that you wouldn't have thought to research before posting as your mind is made up, Blackman is useless, sell him now. Blackman is another player which arrived under the Clement tenure that hasn’t really settled at Derby, every time he’s fell off the injury table another manager has been in charge wanting to play a different style of football. He’s been at the club over 2 years now and been on the pitch in a Derby shirt for a total of 754 minutes which in game time is 8 games under 3 managers, possibly 4 if he played under Wassall. I’m not wasting time searching for Blackman’s stats, fine if you want to. I’ve seen enough of him to know he’s an average player we paid too much for and are paying too much to. He’s not going to step up for us and I’d rather see a youngster given chance. Hopefully Blackman wants to play and goes out on loan again. Good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 A nice little article even though over month old now. https://www.thejc.com/sport/football/blackman-maccabi-tel-aviv-1.464982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Dimmu said: A nice little article even though over month old now. https://www.thejc.com/sport/football/blackman-maccabi-tel-aviv-1.464982 "After a highly successful campaign in Israel in which Blackman scored 12 goals, Maccabi’s enquiries about signing the striker permanently were rebuffed and Blackman was ordered to report for training with the Championship team after the end-of-season break." --- I would imagine they were only interested in a free or another loan then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Sam Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 23:12, Boss said: Think he could be a big player this season. what you mean he's put on weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Carnero said: "After a highly successful campaign in Israel in which Blackman scored 12 goals, Maccabi’s enquiries about signing the striker permanently were rebuffed and Blackman was ordered to report for training with the Championship team after the end-of-season break." --- I would imagine they were only interested in a free or another loan then. Most likely. Or just a small fee. Anyway, seems like Blackman really enjoyed his time and was a big success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 But 2 members of the forum don’t rate him so why have we not got rid of him even in a free!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Sam Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 56 minutes ago, EnigmaRam said: But 2 members of the forum don’t rate him so why have we not got rid of him even in a free!! i think there might be more than 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 There is nothing more bizarre than the hate Derby fans have for Nick Blackman. It is honestly so, so weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 5 hours ago, nottingram said: There is nothing more bizarre than the hate Derby fans have for Nick Blackman. It is honestly so, so weird. I don’t hate him at all, I just think he is rubbish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 He isn't rubbish. He's definitely not a winger, where he was played by us. Given a run in any championship side as a centre forward and with support from fans and team-mates he would score goals, as he did for Reading and more recently in Israel. I don't think he's our best option but I don't think he's rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: He isn't rubbish. He's definitely not a winger, where he was played by us. Given a run in any championship side as a centre forward and with support from fans and team-mates he would score goals, as he did for Reading and more recently in Israel. I don't think he's our best option but I don't think he's rubbish. That’s pretty fair. For me he’s probably just not the standard of a top championship team or likely to get them there in my opinion, but for him, his loan spell was reasonably successful and should have been a morale boost. He’s a good character, just previously badly positioned with us, as he’s certainly never looked a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I don’t really think anyone on this forum can base hope for improved form based on anything he did in a Derby shirt. Therefore it is just a hopeful guess it would work out. I am happy for him to have a chance though like anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 6 hours ago, MuespachRam said: I don’t hate him at all, I just think he is rubbish... What, in his incredibly limited game time for us, has drawn you to that conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I do find the way many fans attach themselves to a player with this unending belief that they will somehow come good if they are given 'one more chance' to be quite amazing (and also strangely admirable). Bryson, Martin, Mawene, Riggott (v2), Tyson, Burley, Ball are all examples of players where I have personally felt they have long passed the point where we even need to have the discussion. In general, you can multiply the likelihood of this by two for any striker and by ten for any local born lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 8 hours ago, MuespachRam said: I don’t hate him at all, I just think he is rubbish... A lot of people on here thought the same of our golden boot winner too .......remind me how it turned out again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Wignall12 said: A lot of people on here thought the same of our golden boot winner too .......remind me how it turned out again ? With him hitting the post from one yard and looking completely shot for the rest of the game. Not bagging on him, and we wouldn't have been there without him, but you did ask. Well done for managing history's only ever Kane / Blackman comparision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 58 minutes ago, BaaLocks said: With him hitting the post from one yard and looking completely shot for the rest of the game. Not bagging on him, and we wouldn't have been there without him, but you did ask. Well done for managing history's only ever Kane / Blackman comparision. He was talking about Vydra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 On 10/07/2018 at 23:12, Boss said: Think he could be a big player this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 6 hours ago, nottingram said: What, in his incredibly limited game time for us, has drawn you to that conclusion? I have drawn that conclusion by looking at his whole career...he is a striker who doesn’t score goals....an almost identical record of goals and games to Weimann (who I also think is rubbish) but where as Weimann at least got his goals in the Premiershite and Championship the deadly Blackman was “firing them in” in League 1 and the footballing hotbeds of the Scottish league and Israeli League...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 5 hours ago, Wignall12 said: A lot of people on here thought the same of our golden boot winner too .......remind me how it turned out again ? The difference is that Vydra has scored goals before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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