RiddingsRam Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Interesting piece from one of the only journos I trust . https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/05/15/derby-county-likely-sell-top-scorer-matej-vydra-missing-premier/amp/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw&__twitter_impression=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 £8m eh? Bit of a loss then. Fair enough. It's the 'Derby Way' to do business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DcFc Dyycheee Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Always going to happen. We'll end up giving him away like we did with Will as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 "I'd want to make sure we're in a position to still challenge regardless of what we have to do financially. "Any manager would tell you that you would love to get in the play-offs and have a summer where you can recruit very strongly and try to improve the side. But the reality is, after lots of years and lots of managers doing that, I am the manager who has to balance it all out a little bit more." I just noticed in this article Gary contributes two sentences and only says "the reality is" once! Hope he's not losing touch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Hardly surprising. As long as it’s not to a rival, we can’t really complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Just now, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Hardly surprising. As long as it’s not to a rival, we can’t really complain. At £8m? Watch us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Surely the number we start off demanding would be a bit higher. Wasn't 8m what we paid for him? Can't say any of the names are that surprising. The 35m sounds horrendous tho......I think I'd have to mismanage quite hard to achieve that level of spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Just now, Parsnip said: At £8m? Watch us... What is his value? He’s had 1 good season in 3 years. We got 5 rising to 9 for Will and 9 rising to 12 for Tom. If we sold Vydra to a promoted side for 8m, I wouldn’t be devastated as long as it was reinvested on some youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I think the situation is same as last summer. Reality is if we get a bid, the player is as good as gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 If we sell Vydra for £8m, especially after selling Hughes & Ince for such measy sums, then I really would be lost for words! We sign a player with 3 league goals for £8m then work with him to become the league's top goalscorer and sell him for the same? If I didn't think our club was batshit crazy then I wouldn't even give it the time of day. I'll wait and see if it happens, but what a s**tstorm we're in for this summer & next season! Relegation odds currently 20/1 on SkyBet FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, HantsRam said: Surely the number we start off demanding would be a bit higher. Wasn't 8m what we paid for him? Can't say any of the names are that surprising. The 35m sounds horrendous tho......I think I'd have to mismanage quite hard to achieve that level of spend. Just a build up of poor decisions over a few seasons. Big one being we’ve had a lot of crucial players who were going out of contract the same season, SAFerguson said in one of his books it’s the worst thing you can do because it gives players the bargaining power for more money. I think this has probably snowballed over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 minute ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: What is his value? He’s had 1 good season in 3 years. We got 5 rising to 9 for Will and 9 rising to 12 for Tom. If we sold Vydra to a promoted side for 8m, I wouldn’t be devastated as long as it was reinvested on some youth. More than that. Bobby Reid is being linked with a move to Bournemouth for £12 million and he scored less than Vydra, it's his 1st good season in his career (albeit he's been a midfielder previously) and he has just 1 year left on his contract. So you're damn right I'll be annoyed if we let Vydra go for just £8 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 8m?! ***** sake not this ******** again, what is our obsession with selling our best players for **** all? Vydra shouldn’t be going anywhere for a shade less than 20m. Im not gonna be happy if we sell all the players mentioned in that article and we don’t bring in quality to replace them. Feeling a serious lack of ambition this summer and that’s gravely disappointing given what we achieved this year, and the relative weakness of sides coming down from the prem. Fearing a return to the GSE era of safe football, selling our best players and having a low wage bill while trying to stay competitive in the top half. If that’s the height of our ambitions in this league then what’s the point? If mel can’t afford to pay out the fees (fair play to him, I couldn’t), then sell us up to someone who can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: What is his value? He’s had 1 good season in 3 years. We got 5 rising to 9 for Will and 9 rising to 12 for Tom. If we sold Vydra to a promoted side for 8m, I wouldn’t be devastated as long as it was reinvested on some youth. What did Cardiff pay for Gary Madine? About £6m wasn't it - this is a guy that's got as many goals as Vydra this season in 137 league games at this level. The Hughes & Ince fees were also beyond belief, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DcFc Dyycheee Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 It won't be 8m if multiple clubs are in for him, but if it's a Will Hughes situation where only 1 club was in, then in our mess we're going to have to take what we're given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Just now, Ambitious said: What did Cardiff pay for Gary Madine? About £6m wasn't it - this is a guy that's got as many goals as Vydra this season in 137 league games at this level. The Hughes & Ince fees were also beyond belief, too. January is always going to be an inflated price, especially late in the window. Ince was about right for me, Hughes was drastically low, Hendrick was too high. I guess that’s how it goes. I’m guessing it’ll be similar to last season, in that we’ll have to sell early in the window to get around FFP. I guess it helps us that the Prem window opens on Thursday, so we get a bit longer to negotiate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Losing Shackell, Bent and Baird will be a good start. Without obviously knowing the exact wages they're on I think it's safe to assume we'll be saving millions on just those three. Throw in Martin and Vydra's wages too and we'll probably save the same again. The theory of selling Vydra, Martin, Bryson, Butterfield, Blackman, Anya and co sounds easy.. if only it was. We've screwed ourselves over though, clubs took us to the cleaners for transfer fee's when they know we had the money... now they'll be taking our best players at bargain basement prices now we're skint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 We should be getting no less than double what we paid for him. If Britt Assombolonga is worth £15m - Vydra is worth at least £16m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 minute ago, DcFc Dyycheee said: It won't be 8m if multiple clubs are in for him, but if it's a Will Hughes situation where only 1 club was in, then in our mess we're going to have to take what we're given. What mess are we in though? I know there's issues with the large wage bill but what else is the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 If Bobby Reid is valued at around £15m then I would expect at least that for Vydra. Please Derby, don’t start the new season by immediately repeating the mistakes of the previous ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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