How far short or not

[archied]

 

For one minute let’s look forward to a scenario where don’t go up ( please let us go up ) how far are we from a decent team for promotion next season?

 Has rowett shown he can change and perhaps try to deliver the football fans want ?

With that formation are we a striker , a good left wingback and a quality midfielder away from very decent? 

And with that in mind do we have really decent under 23 options to come in and cover if we play that system ? 

 If so with a bit of wheeling and dealing that should be very doable on our budget ?

 thoughts?

[North East Ram]

16 minutes ago, archied said:

 

For one minute let’s look forward to a scenario where don’t go up ( please let us go up ) how far are we from a decent team for promotion next season?

 Has rowett shown he can change and perhaps try to deliver the football fans want ?

With that formation are we a striker , a good left wingback and a quality midfielder away from very decent? 

And with that in mind do we have really decent under 23 options to come in and cover if we play that system ? 

 If so with a bit of wheeling and dealing that should be very doable on our budget ?

 thoughts?

 

Just joking. 

But ask me again in late May ?

Too much dust to settle and other such cliches to flow under the bridge and fly up the flagpole.

 

[europia]

Carson, Davis, Vydra, Lawrence are the probably the only players anywhere near capable of performing in PL.  

[archied]

8 hours ago, europia said:

Carson, Davis, Vydra, Lawrence are the probably the only players anywhere near capable of performing in PL.  

More about the scenario where we don’t get up this year but what we need to be real top two contenders in championship 

[DesertRam]

We are 4/5 short, not on skill, on consistency.

Get Aiden Quinn for a start, and we can keep the 3 at the back ie.  Keogh  Quinn  Davies

Quinn's goals will help.

[Carnero]

23 minutes ago, DesertRam said:

We are 4/5 short, not on skill, on consistency.

Get Aiden Quinn for a start, and we can keep the 3 at the back ie.  Keogh  Quinn  Davies

Quinn's goals will help.

Whooooooooooooooo?!

Key for me would be getting a left sided central defender to match the job Keogh does on the right - Jack O'Connell (Sheff U) or Jonas Knudsen (Ipswich) would be decent shouts. Davies should stay centre of the 3.

[DRBee]

All irrelevant if we don't have a manager prepared to be flexible and who is not too cautious.

[eddie]

3 minutes ago, DRBee said:

All irrelevant if we don't have a manager prepared to be flexible and who is not too cautious.

What bit of 'moving to 3 at the back' indicates to you a lack of flexibility?

[RadioactiveWaste]

Elsnik to come through, Lawrence moves to 10 as Vydra moves for decent fee.

Incoming wing back / wide man.

Thomas and Bennett to be used as sub forwards.

Incoming decent striker to replace Nugent and Martin.

 

 

[Ram8]

DesertRam .. Think you might mean Aidan FLINT from Bristol City, an ex Alfreton Town player in fact ! 

[Carnero]

7 minutes ago, Ram8 said:

DesertRam .. Think you might mean Aidan FLINT from Bristol City, an ex Alfreton Town player in fact ! 

No thanks, Flint is a donkey!

We already have the central player of the 3 in Davies. Left-sider needed if we're sticking with a back 3.

[irobinson]

I’d go for Flint at Bristol in the middle 

[Mostyn6]

personally think we have the wrong footballing philosophy to suit the players we have and think this puts us further away than we should be.

[Curtains]

30 minutes ago, Moist One said:

personally think we have the wrong footballing philosophy to suit the players we have and think this puts us further away than we should be.

What is your footballing philosophy 

[Inglorius]

We're an absolute country mile away from being a Top 2 team in terms of current playing staff, recruitment and scouting, bringing youth players through and I now sadly have to admit manager after watching this seasons toils.

 

[Mostyn6]

11 minutes ago, curtains said:

What is your footballing philosophy 

not sure it's relevant.

[Curtains]

30 minutes ago, Moist One said:

not sure it's relevant.

Ok 

[England Ram]

It depends on what formation you think Rowett will use moving forward.

 

Even we as fans seem to change our mind depending on results.

So many have a thing for 433, others 442, some want a 4321, others now like the new 3521.

If we are talking about who is capable of challenging for promotion from inside our squad that will depend on if they are promoted this year, if not then the majority are not capable.

 

I'd only keep Carson, Davies, Keogh, Wisdom, Vydra, Lawrence of the older first team squad.

 

I'd love to shift out Pearce, Forsyth, Huddlestone, Ledley, Johnson, Thorne, Olson, Wieman, Anya, Nugent & Jerome, even if we are in the championship. As well as the returning loan players of Butterfiled, Martin, Blackman & Bryson.

Start again and use the youth team to actually grow and develop together, suplimented with a balanced amount of experienced players.

 

It wont happen, but hey.

[Dimmu]

16 minutes ago, England Ram said:

So many have a thing for 433, others 442, some want a 4321, others now like the new 3521.

 

 

Worth a try. Some of the refs seem to be blind.

[loweman2]

Where ever we are, who ever the manager is, what ever style of football we play we need a consistent midfield, we need a ball winner to lay it off to a quality passer of the ball who in turn will either ping it through the middle slicing open the opposition defence to who ever is up top or spray it out to the wings, this player was George Thorne before his injuries, if we can get that right the rest will slot into place.

our current midfield set up is to deep, it needs to push up, it is constantly in the wrong positions to receive the ball from the defence hence the constant sideways and backwards passes, at the moment we have nobody capable of making a solid tackle and coming away with the ball and huddlestones passing is to hit and miss, either over hits it or under hits it resulting in the ball being given back to the opposition, once the forward line know they have a good chance of actually receiving a pass they will make more runs into space.

also somebody who can run with the ball and make a pass at the right time, Lawrence could be that player but he needs to learn when to release the ball, has trouble beating the last man.

Also simple stuff like throw ins, free kicks and corners why can we never find our man ? constantly give the ball away to the opposition from set pieces, lets at least look like we have a plan and if Lawrence isn't landing it where he is supposed to let someone else have a go.

we are not a million miles away but like it was mentioned before its consistency we lack, we do the simple stuff correctly around 25% of the game, up that to 50 or 75% and we will see a drastic improvement.

we could even win the world cup !!