RiddingsRam Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, EnigmaRam said: Because I don't think Olson played well on Saturday. Which has always been his problem, his inconsistency. He was really good last week but then failed on Saturday to put in a performance, same as Anya. Have a good game then have several bad games. just my opinion but as poor as fozzys been (by his standards) he's performed better than Olson bar that one game last week. he will be fresh aswell after a break for a couple of games. What did Ollson do wrong on Saturday? I don't see as Ollson really does anything wrong? Plus he wins more in the air than Forsyth and he's 2 inches shorter. Work that one out. I've seen Forsyth have maybe 2 good games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 On 12/02/2018 at 13:06, Anag Ram said: I would go with Ledley alongside Huddlestone and Johnson alongside Vydra and Palmer. Rest Thorne, Weimann and Lawrence. Jerome upfront but with Nugent on after an hour. Nuge does need to get on the pitch and I agree .. 20-30 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Agree freshen up the side. In Ledley, Nugent and Palmer. On the bench Thorne, Jerome and Weimann or Lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 As much as I rate thorne,he doesn't sit easily with how we play now and I'd rather Ledley started this one....I'd place Lawrence in the same boat as thorne and would prefer Anya and weiman to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 In his post match and pre match chats, Rowett was about as blatantly obvious as you can be that Thorne needs a rest and won’t start today. Wouldn’t surprise to see Ledley plus Nugent and Johnson all starting. Palmer a long shot possibility as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 On 12/02/2018 at 12:20, BathRam72 said: Apparently Thorne is carrying a back injury so maybe sorted itself for tomorrow Thorne injured? That's very unusual for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Ledley for me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Tonight its got to be Ledley unless their are under lying reasons we dont know of. Not put a foot wrong al season and Thorne just seems a bit out of sorts to his usual standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: As much as I rate thorne,he doesn't sit easily with how we play now and I'd rather Ledley started this one....I'd place Lawrence in the same boat as thorne and would prefer Anya and weiman to start. Can’t agree with you there kash Thorne is a very rounded midfield player ,for me it’s a form issue and not anything to do with how we play ,, Martin yes but it not Thorne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, archied said: Can’t agree with you there kash Thorne is a very rounded midfield player ,for me it’s a form issue and not anything to do with how we play ,, Martin yes but it not Thorne We will have to agree to disagree on this one then... Thorne is a supremely capable midfielder but I really don't think he sits comfortably with rowetts tactics...the last time I saw him look anything like his old self was when he was playing with Russell and martin and accurately pinging passes and crosses between them.....it was a joy to watch Thorne looking so fluid again. His form is off precisely because he is struggling to entirely adapt...same goes for lawrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I reckon Thorne is really comfortable playing deep with passes to play forwards,pretty much alone, just him and the CBs flanking him, when were playing further up the pitch. one of the best in the league, no doubt, and huddlestone too, similar players who have similar strengths and weaknesses, mainly surrounding mobility and that. I think Thorne playing along side Ledley could possibly be as effective as HuddlestoneLedley has shown to be for the first 3rd of the season. Thorne hant needed anything other than minutes under his belt this season though really has he, as injury free as possible, get a contract sorted, and to get himself into preseason fit and ready. Our form, our injuries and his availability have sorted him some of that valuable pitch time. But he shouldnt be burdened with too much too soon, for our chances, for his psychological and physical recovery and that. Huddlestone and Ledley was clockwork for abit. we could do with getting that back. Not digging Thorne at all, glad he's back, and he's overcome a few horror seasons, but he'd look better with a good presser beside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 hours ago, RiddingsRam said: What did Ollson do wrong on Saturday? I don't see as Ollson really does anything wrong? Plus he wins more in the air than Forsyth and he's 2 inches shorter. Work that one out. I've seen Forsyth have maybe 2 good games this year. I guess agrees with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, EnigmaRam said: I guess agrees with me. And I guess he was wrong too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Either or, not much in it, judging on tonights result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyhill60 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 8 hours ago, oldtimeram said: Thorne injured? That's very unusual for him What a pathetic comment, given what happened at Ipswich I do fear he is not and never will again be the player we saw in 2014. But even at his worst he manages more often than not to find a teammate. This is in stark contrast to Bradley Johnson, what a week that was in 2015 when we signed him and Butterfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 13 hours ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: As much as I rate thorne,he doesn't sit easily with how we play now and I'd rather Ledley started this one....I'd place Lawrence in the same boat as thorne and would prefer Anya and weiman to start. In fairness I’ve not seen enough of Lawrence before he arrived to make proper call on that but from what I’ve seen he has not inspired me ,he seems to want to run down blind alleys ,doesn’t get his head up and as a result makes the wrong choices far far too much ,form or not the player rowett thought he was remains to be seen in my opinion , i think it’s a little too easy to put everything down to rowett s tactics which I think suffer more from lack of quality wide players who really can produce more constant end product , whether we don’t have the money to address that or if it’s rowett s judgement again remains to be seen , if the two wide players give the ball away too cheaply too often then the players around them tend to get a bit negative and defensive minded , the jan window was either poor judgement from rowett or him having his hands tied a bit financially and again only time will tell us the answer to that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 10 hours ago, sunnyhill60 said: What a pathetic comment, given what happened at Ipswich I do fear he is not and never will again be the player we saw in 2014. But even at his worst he manages more often than not to find a teammate. This is in stark contrast to Bradley Johnson, what a week that was in 2015 when we signed him and Butterfield. He has been injured for most of his time at Derby. That's fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 12 hours ago, sunnyhill60 said: What a pathetic comment, given what happened at Ipswich I do fear he is not and never will again be the player we saw in 2014. But even at his worst he manages more often than not to find a teammate. This is in stark contrast to Bradley Johnson, what a week that was in 2015 when we signed him and Butterfield. It’s been well covered but we totally panicked when Hughes and Bryson were injured a couple of years back and wasted a small fortune on 2 players who are just not good enough,Bradley’s 1st touch and passing is shocking and god knows what’s happened to Butterfield a player I liked the look of 3 or 4 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 On 12/02/2018 at 14:15, Papahet said: I'd have brought Ledley in for Thorne the moment he was match fit, we've gradually tailed off with him and Baird out the side IMO. Neither are flash players but do the basis right. class players both with a lot of premiership experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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