ramit Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, RIMBAUD said: Fellas. Can we stop arguing about a West Bromwich Albion player? For all we know many of our current players may harbour beliefs or desires which we would find unacceptable but they are just footballers. Good point. i will play nice now. Too much coffee today i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, Ramslad1992 said: What's a blow job? ? About 40 quid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsFan10 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Completely and utterly disagree with some of his political beliefs and actions regarding not wearing the poppy, which I think is disgusting. Luckily, he’s a footballer and not my local MP. Couldn’t give a toss what he thinks about political issues if we comes here and helps gets us promoted. You’d also be fooling yourselves if you thought that none of our current players harbour one or two political opinions that you think are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekingofbuxton Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Why on earth would a) West Brom get rid and b) another premiership team not sign him Can't see this happening Very good player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, RamsFan10 said: Completely and utterly disagree with some of his political beliefs and actions regarding not wearing the poppy, which I think is disgusting. Luckily, he’s a footballer and not my local MP. Couldn’t give a toss what he thinks about political issues if we comes here and helps gets us promoted. You’d also be fooling yourselves if you thought that none of our current players harbour one or two political opinions that you think are wrong. You mean they vote Labour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 44 minutes ago, Strange yearnings said: So if there was a player who was a self confessed jihadist who supported terrorist acts but was a good player, that would be OK? Strange yearnings... We're an election to be called tomorrow who would you vote for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsFan10 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, King Kevin said: You mean they vote Labour? I’ll keep my mouth shut... never seen a political shouting match online be productive in anyway - especially on a football forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 To persecute McLean for his political moral views is just total and utter disrespect to all those that gave their lives to protect that very freedom , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser_23 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 If he is gonna become a derby player then the fans really need to stop moaning about him and get behind him. If he’s a good player and he helps us get promotion then that’s surely what we want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Posh Ram said: Those who claim they don't want him to sign ought to remember that British soldiers died in WW1 and WW2 to defeat dictatorships and protect freedom of speech and opinion for everyone. British history in Ireland isn't quite so easy to get on board with...I don't agree with his stance but it's not from nowhere that it comes. You don't have to be a genius to see both sides of it. I doubt the young men who joined up to fight against the Germans to free France in 1916 were thrilled to be sent to Ireland to subdue an uprising. History's a lot messier than that. One of the things about the partition of Ireland was the protestants of Ulster would've had their own civil war (and were very ready to have one) in Ireland if the island hadn't been split into north and south at the time. There's a whole lot of wrongs upon wrongs upon wrongs to be unpicked but for the most part a peace process has by and large got us to a situation both sides can live with. I'm not picking on your comment particularly and the fact that the history is messy doesn't stop Mr. McClean for being a bit of a nob in the way he goes about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posh Ram Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 24 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: British history in Ireland isn't quite so easy to get on board with...I don't agree with his stance but it's not from nowhere that it comes. You don't have to be a genius to see both sides of it. I doubt the young men who joined up to fight against the Germans to free France in 1916 were thrilled to be sent to Ireland to subdue an uprising. History's a lot messier than that. One of the things about the partition of Ireland was the protestants of Ulster would've had their own civil war (and were very ready to have one) in Ireland if the island hadn't been split into north and south at the time. There's a whole lot of wrongs upon wrongs upon wrongs to be unpicked but for the most part a peace process has by and large got us to a situation both sides can live with. I'm not picking on your comment particularly and the fact that the history is messy doesn't stop Mr. McClean for being a bit of a nob in the way he goes about it. Not really sure we disagree, I think McClean's position is understandable and it's a good thing that we live in a society where other opinions are tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, Posh Ram said: Not really sure we disagree, I think McClean's position is understandable and it's a good thing that we live in a society where other opinions are tolerated. I don't think we disagree either, I think I was just trying to expand a bit that are some perspectives where things aren't as clear cut. I think we're all glad with how things panned out in the world wars and the northern Ireland peace process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 51 minutes ago, deanoakaram4life said: Getting snappy at some WBA fans Forget all that other ******** What sort of ******* searches his own name on Twitter just to reply to somebody not rating him with how much money he has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zips200 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 And what kind of a man doesn't defend himself? I like it we need fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 31 minutes ago, gccrowdpleaser said: Strange yearnings... We're an election to be called tomorrow who would you vote for? *were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Posh Ram said: Those who claim they don't want him to sign ought to remember that British soldiers died in WW1 and WW2 to defeat dictatorships and protect freedom of speech and opinion for everyone. Whilst you could certainly make that case for WW2, to say that for WW1 would be seriously wide of the mark. Besides, the Russians started WW1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zips200 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Really! It wasn't military industrial complex of Imperial Germany? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim charles Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, deanoakaram4life said: Has he been know to cause uproar in dressing rooms? I don't think so. He won Ireland's player of the year this year, I think for our system he is the perfect addition. admittely not heard of any dressing room stuff but Sunderland and Wigan both bobed him out because of his antics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posh Ram Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, ColonelBlimp said: Whilst you could certainly make that case for WW2, to say that for WW1 would be seriously wide of the mark. Besides, the Russians started WW1. The Kaiser wanted to greatly expand the German Empire, we fought him to restrain the growth of said empire. Just because they weren't evil like the Nazis doesn't mean they didn't pose a threat to freedom of speech and a desire to conquer other peoples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68 Guns Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Not read the full thread so it may have been mentioned. Personally I don't think political views make any difference as long as they don't cross the boundaries of legality. Good player. Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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