Stive Pesley Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 It's like Igor and Mo Konjic had a baby and named him Richard Keogh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 37 minutes ago, Beagle said: Keogh is not fit to lick Igor's boots there are lots of players in Derby's history his not close too. However has a past critic and quite rightly so, he has improved his game this season cut out the mistakes and improved his decision making.My biggest criticism was he repeated the same errors over and over never seeming to learn and blaming others for them.All this has changed this season and I think alot has to do with Rowett and having Davies next to him. I have read these kind of posts every season for the last 4 years on Keogh. Cut out the mistakes, looks better with Buxton, Shackell, Pearce, Davies etc next to him, down to Clement, Pearson, Powell, McClaren, Rowett etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: I'd love us to get promoted with Keogh as captain. The absolute rubbish he had to put up with from a load of Derby fans after Wembley and ever since was criminal. They should all be ashamed of themselves but I doubt they have the required self awareness to undersrand why they look so stupid. I seem to remember some members of this forum (who shall remain nameless) said that we would never get promoted with Keogh playing in defence. We'll see if they come round by the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 6 hours ago, RiddingsRam said: Dare I say he's better? You can say it, but you'd be wrong. I like Keogh, I think he's probably the best C.B. in the Championship and better than many in the Premier League. He has great heart and not a little talent, But better than Igor? Just no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 6 hours ago, RiddingsRam said: Dare I say he's better? He’s good...... but better than Igor ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I think the standard of football overall has improved, and as such I'm open to the idea that Keogh is better than Igor. Having said that, I'm not really a fan of comparing players in quality to players who played different eras of football, so I'll stick with them being their own, very very good, individual selves. Keogh's the best defender we've had since Igor, at the very least. I've been saying that every season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Beagle said: Keogh is not fit to lick Igor's boots there are lots of players in Derby's history his not close too. However has a past critic and quite rightly so, he has improved his game this season cut out the mistakes and improved his decision making.My biggest criticism was he repeated the same errors over and over never seeming to learn and blaming others for them.All this has changed this season and I think alot has to do with Rowett and having Davies next to him. Have to disagree I'm afraid. Keogh hasn’t become a good player overnight, he has always been an excellent player. He made a couple of mistakes yesterday by the way but the supporter’s mindset has now changed so any error is not commented on. He has been the sole defender over the past few years to put his neck on the block, been fully committed and never hid in endeavouring to make up for the poor management and set of the team. Furthermore, he is fully entailed as captain to be critical of other players if they are doing third jobs or pulling their weight. It’s his job after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 No ,,,,,,,, he is keough ,, all the excuses being given for undertaking him now are funny ,, he's cut out the mistakes ? He's got Davies ? He's not captain so he can concentrate on his own game? its very simple ,he a very decent centre half ,, he was playing in a side that when in flow was great to watch but often left the centre halfs exposed and trying to cover so much space and needing to make desperate last ditch tackles , now we have the whole team better drilled , far more disciplined ,less naive and defending as a unit he looks like a centre half should ,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 44 minutes ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said: He’s good...... but better than Igor ?♂️ Yeah yeah , I probably got a bit carried away but read my post further down from my o.p ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambalin Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Pearson said: Have to disagree I'm afraid. Keogh hasn’t become a good player overnight, he has always been an excellent player. He made a couple of mistakes yesterday by the way but the supporter’s mindset has now changed so any error is not commented on. He has been the sole defender over the past few years to put his neck on the block, been fully committed and never hid in endeavouring to make up for the poor management and set of the team. Furthermore, he is fully entailed as captain to be critical of other players if they are doing third jobs or pulling their weight. It’s his job after all. Keogh's current form possibly makes him one of the better central defenders in the league but he is only ever going to be that at this level a good centre half.At a higher level his limitations like lots of good players at this level will be exposed....Bobby Davison is a case in point and I loved Bobby. His commitment I do not not question however at times that has led to him making the mistakes he gets criticised for when he needed a calmer head. You are right has captain he is entitled to criticize and praise others in the correct moments it is something he has improved on this season.But he had a habit of trying to deflect blame from himself when in the wrong but like I said he has improved his captaincy this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckosBeard Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 11 hours ago, RiddingsRam said: Dare I say he's better? Whooaa....read your comment after but "Dare I say better".....Igor = world class, enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 hour ago, BuckosBeard said: Whooaa....read your comment after but "Dare I say better".....Igor = world class, enough said. I knew I'd get you too comment some how ?! I was a bit hasty mate I did correct it further down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eargasm Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Don't get me wrong, Keogh if fantastic ! .... but IGORa lorra lorra laughs when I saw this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Eargasm said: Don't get me wrong, Keogh if fantastic ! .... but IGORa lorra lorra laughs when I saw this thread I hope you got your orgasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Perhaps we could fuse the best of each into a hybrid mega-defender. We could call him Eeyore. Eh? What do you mean I'm not taking the thread seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 19 hours ago, coneheadjohn said: Probably as good,certainly as important to us. Keogh’s better with the ball at his feet? Igor had more of a presence though,he just had this aura of greatness and authority. You wouldn’t want to have a scrap with Igor either,I’d fancy my chances against Keogh because you could trick him. Step - over then a turn inside followed by a left hook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Keogh wasnt as good as igor with his feet. Igor just didnt make the same stupid runs forward, because generally he was playing sweeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 40 minutes ago, Mr Giggles said: Step - over then a turn inside followed by a left hook? I was thinking tap him on the shoulder let him have one then leg it fast(it wouldn’t be very fast). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 41 minutes ago, jagerbob said: Keogh wasnt as good as igor with his feet. Igor just didnt make the same stupid runs forward, because generally he was playing sweeper. Stupid runs forward? Like the one that set up our second goal against Villa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Yes. Well before this season his runs forward was because we tryed to play everthing down the middle which was very congested and easy to defend against. Especially given we had a team of central midfield players and no deep threat or chance of a more direct longer pass. Igor was better with the ball at his feet in that he stepped in occasionally just to beat one man to give him timwe to play a through ball or a switching diagonal. Whilst not quite Cyrus Christie, sometimes Keogh just puts his donkey head down and runs with no idea what to do next. You wouldnt say that about Igor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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