DEL Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, Saul Pimpson said: Nice one DEL. Good luck Razza. 16 minutes ago, coneheadjohn said: Very good again Del? Here for another bit of information, Guingamp finished 10th last season in the top flight (Ligue 1) see link below you'll see the league table. ? http://m.ligue1.com/ligue1/classement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: Yeah you're probably right pal, Rowett should hire you as a transfer consultant. You could sell ice to an Eskimo I bet Its a hard sell but id give it a go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Here for another bit of information, Guingamp finished 10th last season in the top flight (Ligue 1) see link below you'll see the league table. ? http://m.ligue1.com/ligue1/classement Without wanting to criticise his ability too much, the fact he gets signed up by a top 10 ligue 1 club shows the standard of that league outside of the bigger teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritty Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 If we had accepted a bid for him, even a free bid, and he hadn't asked for a transfer, we'd have to pay (at least a portion of) his contract up. Them's the rules as I understand it. Let's assume he's on 15k a week and had a year left. That would cost us (a portion of) £750k less whatever fee we got for him. Anything less than (a portion of) 750k and it'd be cheapest to just keep him in the reserves So I suspect that no club was willing to pay a fee equivalent to the amount of his contract we would have to pay up. So I am guessing we basically said, we'll cancel your contract by mutual consenst so we don't pay it up. And then you can go. All guesswork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, feisty said: If we had accepted a bid for him, even a free bid, and he hadn't asked for a transfer, we'd have to pay (at least a portion of) his contract up. Them's the rules as I understand it. Let's assume he's on 15k a week and had a year left. That would cost us (a portion of) £750k less whatever fee we got for him. Anything less than (a portion of) 750k and it'd be cheapest to just keep him in the reserves So I suspect that no club was willing to pay a fee equivalent to the amount of his contract we would have to pay up. So I am guessing we basically said, we'll cancel your contract by mutual consenst so we don't pay it up. And then you can go. All guesswork Probably about right there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, feisty said: If we had accepted a bid for him, even a free bid, and he hadn't asked for a transfer, we'd have to pay (at least a portion of) his contract up. Them's the rules as I understand it. Let's assume he's on 15k a week and had a year left. That would cost us (a portion of) £750k less whatever fee we got for him. Anything less than (a portion of) 750k and it'd be cheapest to just keep him in the reserves So I suspect that no club was willing to pay a fee equivalent to the amount of his contract we would have to pay up. So I am guessing we basically said, we'll cancel your contract by mutual consenst so we don't pay it up. And then you can go. All guesswork I think it's various "loyalty" bonuses that a player is entitled to if he didn't officially request a move, rather than the full value of their contract. So your truest statement will be "no club was willing to pay a fee equivalent to the amount of his contract we would have to pay up" (bonuses). See: https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/there-any-point-handing-a-transfer-request-fourfourtwo-investigates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleyram Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 He was hopeless , good riddance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 He clearly has a better sat nav than Wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: He clearly has a better sat nav than Wisdom. That's Vauxhall Zafira's for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, valleyram said: He was hopeless , good riddance What will be slightly irritating is nice but useless Razza has a good season with Guingamp, only to be signed by Nice, Marseille or Lyon in a year or so for several million. Can see it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Deal happened so quickly after releasing, that my assumption is we didn't pay a penny. Maybe Guingamp don't have money and all three parties made gentleman's agreement. Best for all parties, we let him go without paying, Guingamp gets their target without paying and Camara gets new deal with first team opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valleyram Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 54 minutes ago, Zag zig said: What will be slightly irritating is nice but useless Razza has a good season with Guingamp, only to be signed by Nice, Marseille or Lyon in a year or so for several million. Can see it coming. He will be released in 12 months time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 20 goals next season earning himself a £30m move to the Prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manicsheepreacher Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Agreed. That happened way too quickly, I wish there a was a little more clarity on the current transfer deals. Just think the club could potentially avoid a lot of criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 11 hours ago, feisty said: If we had accepted a bid for him, even a free bid, and he hadn't asked for a transfer, we'd have to pay (at least a portion of) his contract up. Them's the rules as I understand it. Let's assume he's on 15k a week and had a year left. That would cost us (a portion of) £750k less whatever fee we got for him. Anything less than (a portion of) 750k and it'd be cheapest to just keep him in the reserves So I suspect that no club was willing to pay a fee equivalent to the amount of his contract we would have to pay up. So I am guessing we basically said, we'll cancel your contract by mutual consenst so we don't pay it up. And then you can go. All guesswork I've been told he was on £18k a week. Would be astonishing if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretsquirrel Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 There if true is the underlying issue as to why we can't get rid of the players we need to ship out -no value and too lucrative contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I good deal all round. .A player who will be nowhere near the first team gets a move back home and can at least play. We save on paying up his contract and wages. This potentially frees up a squad place and reduces our wage bill. Win win for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, Rab a dab doo said: Win win for everyone. Everyone except Guingamp that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I don't see the free transfer thing being an issue. Rowett said they may have to mutually agree to release certain players. Camara was clearly one of them. I have been critical of the Will Hughes transfer, which is a laughable deal for Derby, if it turns out to be true. But this is a decent decision by the club, for it to be able to move forward without it costing us too much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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