Rample Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 2 hours ago, rammieib said: To everyone saying what's another £1 million - the answer is £1 Million or lets put this another way: £2 Million is 10% of our yearly income. That's a heck of a lot of money. I can't remember the exact losses allowed on FFP over three years but we will be pretty close. That therefore needs taking into consideration... Unfortunately past history, whilst most people now recognise it as being a mistake has given people the image we can just splash the cash. We can't and shouldn't. We need to try and settle at the best price and one which Rowett is prepared to pay. If the answer to that is £2 Million then fine, pay it but if its not, don't just bid it for the sake of it. If we get him, that's two players we have committed to with the cash I assume going out (although most transfers have stage payments) from July onwards. We haven't sold anyone yet (Publicly that we know off) and I read the other day that we have 30 plus pro's on the books already. But bear in mind current players value for ffp drop year on year for the duration of their contracts, Vydra and Anya will have a book value of £3m less than last year, Johnson, Butterfield, Ince, Shackell etc will now be less than half what we paid so ffp is nowhere near as close to the wire as the past few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 There has also been a fair bit of chat about taking a hit on players to move them on which would have a negative impact on our financial fair play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 £2m is a bargin when you consider the money we've spunked away on lesser talented players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyRam! Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 h 2m is an absolute bargain... 4m is a good deal 5-6m is pushing it And 7-8m is in their favour! Get him signed up for 2m at all costs!! Let me ask, would you rather 2.5m for Blackman or 2m for Wisdom? 4m for Butterfield or 4m for Wisdom? 6m for Johnson or 6m for Wisdom?? I know who I'd take every time... Don't forget he's still pretty young. Also covers effectively at CB, I think him working with Baird would also only improve him game! Would be very happy with this signing. Good in the air too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 £2mil is one step short of robbery. I hope this happens but i will take it with a pinch of salt. Especially with Liverpool involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Am I the only one who thinks he could come in at CB? I think he prefers CB, the position he will play may be more of a deciding factor than money. Keogh out, Wisdom in? Then if we sell Christie we get a replacement, Yiadom previously linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajstrawb Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Am I the only one who thinks he could come in at CB? I think he prefers CB, the position he will play may be more of a deciding factor than money Did always think he looked like a centre back playing at right back. Very well, may I add! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, DerbyRam! said: Get him signed up for 2m at all costs!! I agree. Even if it costs 5m, we must get him for 2m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Am I the only one who thinks he could come in at CB? I think he prefers CB, the position he will play may be more of a deciding factor than money. Keogh out, Wisdom in? Then if we sell Christie we get a replacement, Yiadom previously linked. Potentially. Although I've never seen him play at CB to be honest. So will reserve judgement until then. But one thing is for sure. Him and Brayford are the best right backs we've had at the club in the last 10-15 years. Wisdom was absolutely brilliant for us in the season he played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Am I the only one who thinks he could come in at CB? I think he prefers CB, the position he will play may be more of a deciding factor than money. Keogh out, Wisdom in? Then if we sell Christie we get a replacement, Yiadom previously linked. Played centre-half during most of his time at RB Salzburg, but presume he's coming in to play right-back. Wisdom - Keogh - Davies - Forsyth Looks good enough for promotion on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Duracell said: I agree. Even if it costs 5m, we must get him for 2m. Absolutely. We can always say it was for an "undisclosed fee of £5m" thought to be in the region of £2m plus £3m worth of "add ons". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Rample said: But bear in mind current players value for ffp drop year on year for the duration of their contracts, Vydra and Anya will have a book value of £3m less than last year, Johnson, Butterfield, Ince, Shackell etc will now be less than half what we paid so ffp is nowhere near as close to the wire as the past few seasons. The book values of players have nothing to do with FFP,only their wages and the total amortisation count against it.Also,you can no longer say that the book value of a player will be £x less,because since 15/16 the treatment of intangible assets has changed and players' contracts have now been given residual values,which means they are being amortised down to the RV,rather than zero.If you don't know the RV,then you don't know the amortisation,and hence the fall in book value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, ramblur said: The book values of players have nothing to do with FFP,only their wages and the total amortisation count against it.Also,you can no longer say that the book value of a player will be £x less,because since 15/16 the treatment of intangible assets has changed and players' contracts have now been given residual values,which means they are being amortised down to the RV,rather than zero.If you don't know the RV,then you don't know the amortisation,and hence the fall in book value. Quarter past five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, archied said: Quarter past five Is that the new way of saying 'what was all that about?' Could have saved myself a lot of keying -quarter past five,Rample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, ramblur said: Is that the new way of saying 'what was all that about?' Could have saved myself a lot of keying -quarter past five,Rample. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painter10 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Is wisdom even that good.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Did you never see him play in our most successful team since we were last promoted to the Premiership? Judging from your comment me think's not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie G Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Wisdom C.Davies Shackell Fozzy Yes please Mel, with George in front. That would frighten the life out of teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 26 minutes ago, Painter10 said: Is wisdom even that good.. ? To be fair i really rated him the season he was here proper defender big and strong. Also think with him on the right wegot the best out of fozzy. When he went forward wisdom stayed back making it a back three he was one of our best loans in recent times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robglosta Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 2 hours ago, ramblur said: The book values of players have nothing to do with FFP,only their wages and the total amortisation count against it.Also,you can no longer say that the book value of a player will be £x less,because since 15/16 the treatment of intangible assets has changed and players' contracts have now been given residual values,which means they are being amortised down to the RV,rather than zero.If you don't know the RV,then you don't know the amortisation,and hence the fall in book value. This is why accountants can charge a kings ransom for their services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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