Warren Hobhead Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Since GR was appointed, he hasn't had a start. He's had the odd sub appearance. Bryson and Johnson have started each game. Seems Will and Butters are fighting it out for one spot and Jacob has been preferred so far. Many on here said they couldn't play together and GR's lineups so far suggest he's of the same opinion. We've got 10 points from 12. What's everyone's thoughts? I didn't expect Butters or Hughesy to be GR footballers. So I wasn't surprised to see both on the bench initially. I did though expect us to struggle without a technician in midfield and GR having to pick one. But we haven't struggled really. And as much as I love Butterfield I expected it'd be Hughes getting the nod first. Who I love also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised to see him sold in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I'm trying not to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, Warren Hobhead said: Since GR was appointed, he hasn't had a start. He's had the odd sub appearance. Bryson and Johnson have started each game. Seems Will and Butters are fighting it out for one spot and Jacob has been preferred so far. Many on here said they couldn't play together and GR's lineups so far suggest he's of the same opinion. We've got 10 points from 12. What's everyone's thoughts? I didn't expect Butters or Hughesy to be GR footballers. So I wasn't surprised to see both on the bench initially. I did though expect us to struggle without a technician in midfield and GR having to pick one. But we haven't struggled really. And as much as I love Butterfield I expected it'd be Hughes getting the nod first. Who I love also. Very early days. 4 games in and the results have all been positive. Little wonder Rowett is loath to change things right now. I also think 4 games, only one of which we won convincingly, is way too soon to give the Johnson and Bryson combo a free pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Thought Hughes did well when he came on. I think he is very much in Rowetts plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Trying not to think about it like Stringer, but must be some bigger plan in play here because Rowett is too smart not to know how good Hughes is. The other slightly confusing one is Vydra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 It could be as simple as no one has done anything to lose the shirt and let Hughes in. The Vydra one I'm thinking is pure tactics as he's looked threatening and scored goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I've got to say I'm dismayed at Will's lack of starts purely because I was quick enough to have a pop at Pearson when he left him out for our first game of the season. While Pearson remains cockwomble-in-chief, I can't argue with the fact Rowett has the best record of any manager in our history in his first four games so he might just know something I don't. That said, if he sells Will, I'll never feel more like singing the blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: It could be as simple as no one has done anything to lose the shirt and let Hughes in. The Vydra one I'm thinking is pure tactics as he's looked threatening and scored goals. Fair enough you go 4-3-3 so vydra is sacrificed but when you announce Butterfield as the starter over hughes v Birmingham, that's just odd. Putting JB in the shop window maybe? You know Hughes will leave for the premier league seasons end maybe? Something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 26 minutes ago, Ninos said: Putting JB in the shop window maybe? You know Hughes will leave for the premier league seasons end maybe? Something. Both plausible reasons. I'm just trying to not believe Hughes is being saved for sale. Could just be GR thought butters might offer the odd long range shot which Hughes doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Watched Hughes when he came on yesterday. Looked after the ball well but wasn't very mobile. There was one occasion when ball played out to Ince from defence and there was a big Will-sized gap just waiting for him to run into and he did - but only after a good think about it. I'm not convinced he is fully fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utisbug Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 To overlook Hughes or to sell him would be the biggest mistake the club has made squad wise in my life time. Injury alone has kept him at Derby. To underestimate how important and how much quality he has would be criminal. The signs thus far with Rowett aren't great and it is a tad worrying. With him and Thorne we are incredibly spoilt and I sincerely hope Rowett has no desire to sell Will. It would be a ludicrous decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 He needs to get properly fit just like Forsyth and Thorne and then force his way into he team and stay there just like everyone else, if he is good enough he will do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 I don't think anyone would want to spend big money on Hughes after his recent injuries and form. Third manager this year to leave him out, not sure if that's telling or whether it is just match fitness. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 It's hard to second guess why he isn't commanding an automatic start. GR did give a telling interview early on though saying that his starting team wouldn't necessarily be the technically best 11 players. It was about getting the right blend of players, which to be fair is what he's done given the results we've had. I agree with @angieram that his current fitness could also be a factor too. I too thought Pearson was a fruit loop when he did a similar thing with Hughesy and Chris Martin but whilst the results are remaining stable then we have to trust GRs judgement. Let's just hope WH can play his way back into the side when given the opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 It's either his attitude or whether he is injured that's the problem. However, Rowett wouldn't be bringing him on if he is not 100%. Could suggest to me that it might be trying to keep Hughes on the ground because our last 3 managers have chopped and changed with Hughes now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Simsy said: Thought Hughes did well when he came on. I think he is very much in Rowetts plans. He did very well in the Fulham game. I can't comment about yesterday, being a half fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Vydra forced his way into consideration because of what he was doing in training. Hughes just has to show the same commitment, wait his chance then grab it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, eddie said: Vydra forced his way into consideration because of what he was doing in training. Hughes just has to show the same commitment, wait his chance then grab it. So do we accept that Butters has done that then? Forced his way in through training and attitude? To be fair, I think he's looked spot on in every appearance under GR. Like the Butters of last season. Which shows he plays to instruction. Managers like that. God knows why Mac and NP had him out of position playing safety first football. Let him play and above all else, let him shoot around the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 32 minutes ago, McLovin said: It's either his attitude or whether he is injured that's the problem. ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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