Comrade 86 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Why Rowett now? Absolutely no feckin idea. If the rumours are true then I guess the suits are just as entitled and shortsighted as many of the fans seem to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I said on another thread that if the trigger was pulled now, no real damage has been done. Mac has brought in no new players and we now do not appear to have a favoured system. The only thing I would find strange is the Chris Martin situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 To sack McClaren would be lunacy! However if Mel is to do it and wants Rowett to replace him then do it now! Give him time to assess what needs to be done in the summer. Just think, if Mel had done that when he sacked Clement, we might have got Garry Monk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Well Millwall's Neil Harris might be available soon - apparently some fans calling for him to go on their forums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Pardew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I do have to own up to being totally at a loss as to the best way forward for Derby at this point,, was 50/50 on macs return but my gut feeling is he is not the man for us but nobody really excites me , I would like us to start trying to get the basics right again though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibby Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Its needs a proper experience manager in. I hope they look at others manager, if Mclaren was to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 If we do make a change I am not sure Rowett is the man to take over. Having said that I have no bloody idea who would be best for us at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Before you start vvanking crazy over Rowett then go on a little digging. He's no stranger to bad runs, hammerings and hoofball. Or leaving for bigger clubs. None of you would settle for his record at Burton or Birmingham at Derby. He'll be out on his arse too before long. Then you'll all have another crystal ball champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Just now, Alpha said: Before you start vvanking crazy over Rowett then go on a little digging. He's no stranger to bad runs, hammerings and hoofball. Or leaving for bigger clubs. None of you would settle for his record at Burton or Birmingham at Derby. He'll be out on his arse too before long. Then you'll all have another crystal ball champion And Mel will hire him too. He does it every time. Justify Clement, Pearson and Mac 2 all you want as good/bad decisions but I feel all were made because Mel thinks that's what the fans want. Messiah complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tombo said: And Mel will hire him too. He does it every time. Justify Clement, Pearson and Mac 2 all you want as good/bad decisions but I feel all were made because Mel thinks that's what the fans want. Messiah complex. I agree. See, fans look at the overall picture of managers time at other clubs but don't do that when they're at Derby. Like Rowett... his win percentage at his last 2 clubs are both below Mac's this season. But it's generally accepted that he did a great job at both Burton and Brum. David Wagner. A coach I would have liked before we appointed Pearson. Great job at Huddersfield. If he was linked with Derby we'd all be creaming ourselves. But he's had a couple of bad runs. He's had hard times. He's had batterings. But the overall picture is a great one. Rowett's record isn't so spectacular. Neither was his football. But his overall record shows he improved teams. Which is exactly what McClaren's overall record shows. He took us from midtable to a genuine contender for promotion. He took us from the bottom to the middle. People don't judge it fairly. I mean they were even rewarding Nigel Pearson the credit for starting the run that won the PL. Have a look at who they beat in those last 9 games. Have a look at the way Leicester played under Pearson and then under Ranieri. It was different. But people always take a look at the big picture with other clubs. Never with their own. And Mel Morris is a fan. Am I right that in the official statement he referenced the performance on Friday? Whoever comes in, whoever, will give us a performance like Friday. We will get battered. We will look hopeless. Even if they do an amazing job it will still happen. If it happens to Barcelona then it happens to everyone. Everyone has bad runs. Everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Why do we always have to go with the obvious candidates? We should go with the person we think is most likely to attract good players. Our reputation as bottlers will test the persuasive skills of manager and general manager alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Why do we always have to go with the obvious candidates? We should go with the person we think is most likely to attract good players. Our reputation as bottlers will test the persuasive skills of manager and general manager alike. If Mel Morris knows what he wants from a manager then he should be searching high and low for the guy who has done it at least once. Who has actually gone into a club and done whatever it is Mel wants from scratch. Not somebody who's walked into a club and carried on the good work. That's not where we are. Not somebody who's never done anything like what he wants but has been successful using other methods. Somebody who has delivered. From what we know of Mel Morris he wants entertaining football. He wants young players breaking through the ranks and he wants it fast. This rules Gary Rowett out. But if you're going to sack someone for the nitty gritty instead of looking at the big picture of where they are at, then just hire anyone. They'll be sacked by Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Laudrup delivered at Swansea, got them their first piece of silverware, played some decent stuff as well but I suppose our recruitment team might have to do some research on him as he'd be a new name to them. Rowett ? Easy and lazy option for me. hope he does well mind because if he does well, the club does well but I'd like to go on record as saying he wouldn't be my choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokidoki Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 The writing was not on the wall on Friday but on last Tuesday. The bizarre - if not inept substitutions, created the death warrant only to be printed on the Friday and signed today. Not in the defence of McClaren, of which his re-appointment was naïve, I have not made a comment on this forum since Pearson was brought in, although I have watched and held my breath. Both decisions lacked sense, although many on here would agree otherwise. Not wishing to say I told you so, but my comments at the time around the sacking of Clement, showed that our leader had megalomaniacal tendencies to say the least; for fear of any litigation I have not stated who I refer to - that is up to you to assume. Suffice to say that my comments way back when was welcome to "Groundhog day", this type of scenario will repeat itself endlessly. My season ticket will not though, until I see a long term vision for the club. In hindsight we should have given Clough the money and sacked the useless CEO, who doesn't appear to make a contribution nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Rowett's such an uninspiring choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew James Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, McLovin said: Rowett's such an uninspiring choice Yes I agree, from Mel's statement I cannot see it being Rowett but somewhere far more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, Alpha said: If Mel Morris knows what he wants from a manager then he should be searching high and low for the guy who has done it at least once. Who has actually gone into a club and done whatever it is Mel wants from scratch. Not somebody who's walked into a club and carried on the good work. That's not where we are. Not somebody who's never done anything like what he wants but has been successful using other methods. Somebody who has delivered. From what we know of Mel Morris he wants entertaining football. He wants young players breaking through the ranks and he wants it fast. This rules Gary Rowett out. But if you're going to sack someone for the nitty gritty instead of looking at the big picture of where they are at, then just hire anyone. They'll be sacked by Christmas It wouldn't make any difference anyway. Where we are and where Mel seemingly thinks we are are miles apart. This needs rebuilding not coaching. I'd rather have Clough than Clement with where we're at now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeyboy1963 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 The football at Burton under Rowett was the worst since Southern League days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIWY Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Can't we please just bring in a manager who is actually going to play the nice football we all want. Rowett will probably get us results but let's be honest we all know how this will end up in about a years time (if that). I know Mel's intentions are good but will he ever learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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