Alph Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Did anybody from the council break their leg in 2002? Didn't think so. Therefore not relevant and not interested. I did some plastering for the council once. I don't think they break a sweat either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Did anybody from the council break their leg in 2002? Didn't think so. Therefore not relevant and not interested. Thanks for emphasising my point !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 9 hours ago, loweman2 said: Why can't some of this anger be put into an energy and used against Derby City Council who week by week take away another little piece of our proud city ? Seems everybody Knows how to vent against a bell end like collymore but you can hear a pin drop when we are having our swimming pools closed, our libraries closed, Our schools shut due to council demands the local parks turned to hell holes, let's hear some of these voices speaking out and speaking up for the rest of our society and let Stanley drift away. Twitter is the latest opium of the masses. "Did you see in the paper that they are shutting down the swimming pool?" "They don't cover stuff like that in my right-wing newspaper owned by a billionaire. But I did read about what a celebrity said on twitter. I'm so outraged. Also did you know all those scum on benefits are ruining the country. I read about it every day. Well, I used to, but apparently the real problem is now EU immigrants, not the poor. Oh, and terrorists of course. Same thing really. I'm confused. I'm a decent person really, been poisioned daily. Think I'll stop reading these papers and just go on twitter from now on." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 9 hours ago, loweman2 said: Why can't some of this anger be put into an energy and used against Derby City Council who week by week take away another little piece of our proud city ? Seems everybody Knows how to vent against a bell end like collymore but you can hear a pin drop when we are having our swimming pools closed, our libraries closed, Our schools shut due to council demands the local parks turned to hell holes, let's hear some of these voices speaking out and speaking up for the rest of our society and let Stanley drift away. here is a classic point, in todays Derby telegraph. the city council wish to save £10,000 and have announced that they are scrapping the St Georges day parade in Derby ! now is that right ? is that something that should raise a little more than a titter, it may not be about football but in context to this outcry of stan collymore it certainly should stir some feeling, or perhaps we are now that much of a multi cultural city that we don't care anymore, take a look, the telegraph have nestled it in the bottom right hand corner and it comes after the story of the guy who paid his car park fine and the question of are you sick of walking your dog in the rain, and of course the wind ! my point just to reiterate is that we seem capable of getting angry about a crass comment on twitter from a has been footballer that is already yesterdays news but we don't seem to give a flying f**k about our future and our childrens future !! http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/council-axes-derby-s-st-george-s-day-parade/story-30046244-detail/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Twitter is an absolute cesspit of people that use anonymity to abuse people in all ways and on the flip side people that are eternally offended by something however pointless or meaningless in the grand scheme of life. If it was shut down tomorrow I would be delighted, it is an echo chamber of absolute crap and I for one wouldn't miss it in the slightest. Also a note to every news outlet on the planet, A TWEET DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN ARTICLE. Do some journalism you bone idle idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 27 minutes ago, loweman2 said: here is a classic point, in todays Derby telegraph. the city council wish to save £10,000 and have announced that they are scrapping the St Georges day parade in Derby ! now is that right ? is that something that should raise a little more than a titter, it may not be about football but in context to this outcry of stan collymore it certainly should stir some feeling, or perhaps we are now that much of a multi cultural city that we don't care anymore, take a look, the telegraph have nestled it in the bottom right hand corner and it comes after the story of the guy who paid his car park fine and the question of are you sick of walking your dog in the rain, and of course the wind ! my point just to reiterate is that we seem capable of getting angry about a crass comment on twitter from a has been footballer that is already yesterdays news but we don't seem to give a flying f**k about our future and our childrens future !! http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/council-axes-derby-s-st-george-s-day-parade/story-30046244-detail/story.html It annoys me, this is on top of other very public cuts they have made recently, such as turning the water off on the waterfall, cancelling the concert at darley park and so on, but they and find half a million for the rings on the spot which they even denied they were spending at first. Its very poor, if they were really interested in keeping such events going, speaking with local business etc i am sure they could muster up 10k to keep this going, but its too easy to cut them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Twitter is an absolute cesspit of people that use anonymity to abuse people in all ways and on the flip side people that are eternally offended by something however pointless or meaningless in the grand scheme of life. If it was shut down tomorrow I would be delighted, it is an echo chamber of absolute crap and I for one wouldn't miss it in the slightest. Also a note to every news outlet on the planet, A TWEET DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN ARTICLE. Do some journalism you bone idle idiots. It has enabled me to be able to fully come out regarding my gambling addiction. It has enabled me to talk and contact people from all over the world who have my addiction and other addictions. It has enabled me to get support and help, and vice versa with other addicts. It has enabled me to have a voice and share my story through a Vlog, it has enabled me to go on local and national radio to discuss my story, bought me into contact with a school in Ireland where I've done a Q and A regarding addiction..... a podcast in Australia that's dedicated to Gambling Addiction. Also managed to be linked with a gambling addiction charity/program in Canada and helping addicts over there. It has truly opened up my eyes to the amount of amazing people on there..... some I'm yet to meet, some who I have and the pleasure of meeting. I get people don't like it, that's personal choice, but to describe it in the way you say is pure folly and very blinkered view of the world. It is rather sad in my opinion of course that you think that. Wouldn't be where I am without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Mafiabob said: It has enabled me to be able to fully come out regarding my gambling addiction. It has enabled me to talk and contact people from all over the world who have my addiction and other addictions. It has enabled me to get support and help, and vice versa with other addicts. It has enabled me to have a voice and share my story through a Vlog, it has enabled me to go on local and national radio to discuss my story, bought me into contact with a school in Ireland where I've done a Q and A regarding addiction..... a podcast in Australia that's dedicated to Gambling Addiction. Also managed to be linked with a gambling addiction charity/program in Canada and helping addicts over there. It has truly opened up my eyes to the amount of amazing people on there..... some I'm yet to meet, some who I have and the pleasure of meeting. I get people don't like it, that's personal choice, but to describe it in the way you say is pure folly and very blinkered view of the world. It is rather sad in my opinion of course that you think that. Wouldn't be where I am without it. I hand't considered that sort of activity in my rant. Fair play to you. For what it's worth I believe social interaction to be a positive thing, I just think a platform like twitter gives too much leeway to the anonymous trolls that seem to make up a huge number of the population on it. Stripping away the anonymity would be a start, I doubt half the disgusting abuse on there would happen if the people doing it had to put their names to it. Best of luck on your continuing journey, hopefully one day we will have a social media platform that is able to better represent the positives of wider social interaction. Sadly I fear that is not twitter, but we live in an age where the the next innovation is only just around the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: I hand't considered that sort of activity in my rant. Fair play to you. For what it's worth I believe social interaction to be a positive thing, I just think a platform like twitter gives too much leeway to the anonymous trolls that seem to make up a huge number of the population on it. Stripping away the anonymity would be a start, I doubt half the disgusting abuse on there would happen if the people doing it had to put their names to it. Best of luck on your continuing journey, hopefully one day we will have a social media platform that is able to better represent the positives of wider social interaction. Sadly I fear that is not twitter, but we live in an age where the the next innovation is only just around the corner. Both Juan and Mafiabob share excellent valid points here. I am pretty much firmly in the Juan camp overall but i think it's purely down to the reason why most people use twitter rather than the app itself. That's the distinction I want to make. IMO it's the obsession people have of first of all having a 'status' or 'online presence' - two phrases which turn my stomach. They feel the need to pose in a cringingly embarrassing set up photo of themselves trying to look cool, sometimes alongside their girlfriends / wives and they then use this as their avatar. The very fact that they've consciously gone out of their way to look good, get into pose mode and then post it up there just screams vanity. It screams 'hey look at cool dude me with my cap on sideways and hottie girlfriend sending a visual message to you all that I'm someone you need to listen to and follow guys and gals!'. It's basically people trying to sell themselves online to anyone who will look and listen. I don't feel any requirement for me to do that and thus struggle to see why others must. Then you get just random photos of say someone's girlfriend and a tweet saying 'missing you babe' or 'this is my sexy girlfriend - can't wait to see you again tonight for a meal and night out'. The only people who truly care about these statements are the bloke posting them and his girlfriend. Anyone else that needs to know this information as if their life depended on it should be sectioned. So that established, I ask myself the question - why can't this bloke ring the lass and tell her himself? Failing that, if she's busy text her a few times. It's called personal communication and having a sense of privacy, two vitally important areas of ones life that have eroded so much that they are becoming extinct. The only two people in the whole world who are interested and really are entitled to see these private messages are the sender and receiver. NOT the rest of the world and his wife! So you see twitter used for this reason just gets clogged up with stuff. Pointless stuff, most of which should be private or communicated between concerned parties and not between potentially everyone on the planet with access to the internet. Impersonality. Easy throwaway comments of gratitude or passion also annoy me. For example footballers. They should not be on twitter. "great support today from the travelling fans thanks so much you were amazing". Common place from footballers on the net who just think a quick tweet means they are fully appreciative and fully open and engaging in communication with fans. You can rattle off a placatory tweet in seconds and get on with the rest of your night. To me they mean absolutely nothing. I fully get that twitter allows communication in the one place where the most people in the world can access it but this just makes posting stuff even more easy to do and easier to dismiss. There seems no real effort or desire to reconnect with fans on a more personal and meaningful / respectful level. You are a Carlisle fan and your team gets mullered 5-0 down at Exeter on a freezing cold Saturday in January. You set off at 5am, have spent best part of 80 quid and you're tired and have stopped off at Tebay services. You check tweets and striker Charlie Wyke says,"bad day at the office all round today, gutted. So sorry for the travelling fans you were immense". I'd happily question the integrity of both parts of such a tweet and it would annoy the hell out of me even more. Again, it's just another really easy way that footballers can make out they connect and care about fans without having to exert themselves, do anything meaningful or lift a finger. Well, they've got to lift at least one finger to type. That's why (on another thread) I highlighted the fact that the Yeovil Town players and manager had clubbed together and chucked money in a pot to buy each Glover that travelled up to their away game at Carlisle recently a pie and a pint. This I the kind of tangible action that needs to happen across football and more often. There are stacks of things / gestures that can be done by players to thank fans and appreciate them IF THEY REALLY MEAN IT. If they are really, really genuine. For most though, a pacifying tweet concocted and sent in seconds does the trick for blinkered twitter obsessed fans. It won't wash with me. I have more respect for footballers who choose to stay away from twitter (are there even any?) as IMO I hold their views and opinions with more weight. Throwaway comments about issues do my head in. Someone will have a rant about the council or something or how it's a disgrace that foodbanks are being used in 2017 Britain. Then instead of going out, buying food to donate to food banks, offering their help on a voluntary basis then petitioning the government and local authority they'll go and make themselves a cup of tea and stick Tricia on and put their feet up. Job done. That's certainly helped. Feel better now. Facebook is full of this procrastinating BS. These sites so indeed highlight just how many people in society I really need to avoid. Easiest solution is not to use them so I don't. My problem is that much of society is now in the firm grip of one or all of these sites and you trying to make friends with people with this is mind is difficult. Difficult to find common ground. "Hi man. You're new here aren't you?" "Yes. I started on Monday. Still settling in" "I know mate, it's always tough starting a new job. Look, you on twitter?" "No sorry. Don't use it". "Facebook then? You on facebook?" "No. If you speak to me again I will remove some of your teeth." Ok so it's an extreme example but I've certainly had to dismiss possible friendships as completely out of hand purely due to others not being able to hold a 5 minute conversation without checking their social media every few seconds. I find it rude and ignorant. Also why does abuse be tolerated on these sites? Surely people can easily be traced and reported to the police? Arguments.com I think will be new name for twitter soon. Mafiabob makes a great point although I've waffled on so much above that i think I've just forgotten it. No that's it. Twitter and facebook used for constructive purposes I can see is the best use of it. You can access groups of likeminded kind or help if you are struggling with things and it can open doors to meeting people and getting help so it does serve a positive purpose. Also as I follow non league football, I can use twitter to get say updates from Scarborough Athletic v Hyde United or any other non league side as there will always be someone at the game tweeting the details. Lastly, two other things that annoy me if I may. One is the presumption that everyone uses facebook. People are almost brainwashed and forced into using it as many if not all companies and businesses use it to promote themselves. My kid goes to gymnastics and they've scrapped their website and gone over to facebook. So unless I check it all the time I could miss important info about class changes and things. Also 'like'. I know this site has a 'like' button but I'm ok with giving the nod to Angry, Paul, Jono, Chester, Mafiabob, SKRam, DEL, (other posters are available) on here but what I refuse to do and cannot fathom why others do is 'like' Cillit Bang. Somebody has actually consciously clicked on an icon to say they like Cillit Bang. (other products are available) . That's almost as much time and meaninglessness taken up by footballers fan appreciation tweets!! Social media is insane. Future evolution almost certainly means we won't need to speak or think but our fingers and thumbs will be like horses penises!! Mine are already after posting this gargantuan waste of everybody's time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Mafiabob said: It has enabled me to be able to fully come out ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, Tony Le Mesmer said: Also 'like'. I know this site has a 'like' button but I'm ok with giving the nod to Angry, Paul, Jono, Chester, Mafiabob, SKRam, DEL, (other posters are available) on here but what I refuse to do and cannot fathom why others do is 'like' Cillit Bang. Fair point, I have always been more of a Dettol man myself as well. Cracking post as always, agree with pretty much all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 18 hours ago, Tony Le Mesmer said: Following and unfollowing celebrities. Jesus. Wow, is he on Twitter as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, VulcanRam said: Wow, is he on Twitter as well? Everyone is on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, VulcanRam said: Wow, is he on Twitter as well? I knew that was coming when I first posted it Vulcan. Surprised it took someone so long though. Be a miracle if Jesus was on twitter I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Just now, David said: Everyone is on Twitter. That's very good but at the same time ruined my gag. So thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Tony Le Mesmer said: I knew that was coming when I first posted it Vulcan. Surprised it took someone so long though. Be a miracle if Jesus was on twitter I reckon. Tbf so am I! Anyway, I think @David has superceded us both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Stan has always been a silly man,in my opinion always shown great imaturity and i suppose some things never change. Just Sick. As a club we tend to make our headlines in the appropriate pages of the press, unlike stan who's most prolific claims to fame tend to appear on pages generally relating to unsavoury matters, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but go and listen to "The Magic Sponge" podcast when they have Tony Warner as their guest.....he talks about Mr Collymore at length and what a total mess he was at Liverpool and how everyone hated him. The funniest story was that at one point all the goalkeepers at Liverpool got together and refused to make an effort for any shot Stanley did, so during training or the pre match kick about they would dive all over the place to save anyone else's shot but when it was Stanley then they just stood there and did nothing...This drove Stanley crazy and he was screaming in the dressing room about it and someone just said "forget it Stan, none of your shots ever hit the target anyway" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I do have a Twitter account, don't use it much as I don't really understand it.. Looked at the Collymore thing and thought... Nah not for me, can't see any point in engaging.. No FB account, can't be arsed with that.. Anyway medium Angry says that's just for 50 year old women with bobs... Anyone want to fess up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 On 10 January 2017 at 17:04, therams69 said: My two pence..... Many are offended and annoyed at the distasteful slur ... You see the thing is with Derby County and particularly our city, it just isn't about football. It's about our community. We all come together for good causes whether that be Lewis Mighty as an example and plug together so all in all when someone makes a vile dig at our community, which he clearly was, we get offended. If you were to just base it on football then fair enough but I am sure we are all proud to be from Derby (well I am!) and anyone offending folk of Derby or our city does get my back up for sure. He knew what he was doing end of. He is clever enough not to mention directly the issue. But why he would quote tweet and reply to someone who didn't even offend him is beyond belief especially as no one previously had even mentioned anything about Philpott. Very sad really as once came across him on a football show that we did filming for. Spent a good afternoon with him and he came across a proper down to earth bloke and we had some good banter amongst the Derby fans and him. Always found him a great pundit on his talksport days and very much spoke from a fan point of view. Also a big backer of safe standing and was one of the first to get a debate broadcasted on the radio. Unfortunately for me, all that is now forgotten. I accept we all make mistakes but he aint backing down from it and that to me is a sign of being a t**t. Fair to say he wont be showing his face in or around Derby. I remember that football show and remember it being advertised and discussed on here looking for Derby fans etc. I remember watching the episode and thinking it lacked you and Stan having a nice chat about this and that and enjoying a soda together. I actually love Stan..........and I also love Ollie too! C'mon therams69 get Stan a soda you know you want too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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