nookiebear Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 As a dad myself i personally wouldnt say it like that as there are other ways of explaining it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamuelLJackson Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 John Cleese was ridiculing the little Englander attitude of the character that made him act so appallingly towards Germans. Explain to me the parallel with this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, StringerBell said: 'Daddy, why is John Cleese walking funny?' I guess if a parent didn't find that funny he wouldn't have his child watching it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, RamuelLJackson said: John Cleese was ridiculing the little Englander attitude of the character that made him act so appallingly towards Germans. Explain to me the parallel with this situation. It is a joke referencing something terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: I guess if a parent didn't find that funny he wouldn't have his child watching it... Is there a trigger warning before it comes on then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 minute ago, StringerBell said: Is there a trigger warning before it comes on then? Not going to carry this on because you're clearly playing the fool. Thanks for the debate though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamuelLJackson Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 minute ago, StringerBell said: It is a joke referencing something terrible. I know we're Derby fans but not everything is so black and white. The context is completely different, as evidenced by the fact that episode of Fawlty Towers was hugely popular in Germany, including among descendants of holocaust victims. I doubt songs about Jimmy Savile are super popular with those he raped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIWY Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, StringerBell said: "He's one of your own" is the chant I've heard before. I'm guessing it's the same one? Yes. It's a daft and pointless chant but not really very offensive. I find it different to chants about Mick Philpott, Doughty etc... because those chants are very specific, which makes them too personal. I wouldn't class a generalised in the same category. That said, I wouldn't chant this myself because I don't see why this chant should have any place in football. Same with the Collymore chant, I don't sing that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Not going to carry this on because you're clearly playing the fool. Thanks for the debate though. No I'm not you just think I am a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I can confirm that the chant wasn't sung in the West Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 8 hours ago, ossieram said: Were you offended when they sang to Tom Ince and did you like the reply I started? I did. It made me laugh. We should run with this one since Ince gets dogs abuse from most opposition fans. It will be nice to be able to stick up for him for a change. We'll probably get told off for offending fatherless people though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 21 minutes ago, RamuelLJackson said: I know we're Derby fans but not everything is so black and white. The context is completely different, as evidenced by the fact that episode of Fawlty Towers was hugely popular in Germany, including among descendants of holocaust victims. I doubt songs about Jimmy Savile are super popular with those he raped. No you can't even order a black tea at Derby. That episode has been censored so somebody is offended by it. Nevertheless, gauging how popular or unpopular something is is irrelevant to the question of whether you can take a terrible person or event and make a joke about it. Explain to me how this song is a slight on victims of Jimmy Saville, and if it is not then why should they be upset by it? A song in which Jimmy Saville is portrayed as a villain. Are you saying merely mentioning Jimmy Saville is objectionable? Like, say, a joke that references Nazis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, Anon said: I did. It made me laugh. We should run with this one since Ince gets dogs abuse from most opposition fans. It will be nice to be able to stick up for him for a change. We'll probably get told off for offending fatherless people though. Yeah I said that earlier in this thread. I'm still waiting for my apologies. Then I can see whether those apologising are the same ones that think singing songs about what a bell Jimmy Saville is is disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 33 minutes ago, StringerBell said: 'Daddy, why is John Cleese walking funny?' Cos Jimmy saville just jingle jangled him with his with his eight inch Cuban !! (is this the kind of humour we are looking to scrape from the very bottom of the barrel ? .) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 My dad was run over and killed whilst on his way to a fancy dress party dressed as a chicken. Consequently, I now hate everybody under the age of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, loweman2 said: Cos Jimmy saville just jingle jangled him with his with his eight inch Cuban !! (is this the kind of humour we are looking to scrape from the very bottom of the barrel ? .) I don't know that wasn't bad. I'm not quite sure how gallows humour is scraping the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, reveldevil said: My dad was run over and killed whilst on his way to a fancy dress party dressed as a chicken. Consequently, I now hate everybody under the age of 10. Was he at fault or do you suspect fowl play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, StringerBell said: Was he at fault or do you suspect fowl play? Entirely his fault, I told him not to lay an egg there, but he couldn't hold it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 minute ago, reveldevil said: Entirely his fault, I told him not to lay an egg there, but he couldn't hold it in. I've got piles that occasionally pop out when I can't hold them in, now I'm offended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 minute ago, philmycock said: I've got piles that occasionally pop out when I can't hold them in, now I'm offended I'm sorry mate, can't say ought these days without causing offence. It's like I'm constantly walking on eggshells. Which is also what the paramedic said as he loaded pa into the ambulance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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