brady1993 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 1 hour ago, toddy said: So important to us, I do believe with him in the side we might not be sitting 20th right now. So badly missed. Too be honest he probably wouldn't have made a deal of difference being sat on the bench because 'he isn't quick enough'. Joking aside (although I do think it wouldn't have been far from the truth), Thorne may have just had the passing range, vision and defensive nous to make Pearson's somewhat flawed system more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 16 minutes ago, Paul71 said: Agree, we would be at least 19th as Pearson decides to play him on the wing. Seriously I agree, gives confidence to both the attacking midfielders and the defence. When people say he didn't play well last season, I really wish you could just have a George cam and watch him throughout a game, he is superb and because of the role it often goes unnoticed. He was hindered offensively by the fact teams started man marking him and there was little movement ahead of him. Of Championship midfielders with 23 or more appearances; only three win the ball (tackles and interceptions) more every 90 minutes than Thorne. Only two block more shots every 90 minutes and only three make more clearances per 90. No other Championship midfielder makes more passes per game than Thorne. Only three championship midfielders make more accurate long passes than Thorne, though all three have a substantially lower long pass accuracy. Only one player actually has a higher long pass accuracy than Thorne. If it wasn't for the Ipswich game he would have had the highest rating on WhoScored out of every other centre-mid in the division to feature over 23 times. A peak Thorne with freedom to run the show and movement ahead of him is, in my opinion, England quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 It was awful that he broke his leg against Ipswich last season . Good luck to the lad now though as he's on the mend. We miss his knowhow and insisive passing. He tends to run games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixman1884 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I can't help but wince whenever he's playing. He's fantastic, but I feel like I'm just waiting for someone to injure him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixman1884 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 If Thorne was fit for the first full season that we signed him, I'm very confident we'd have been promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 A 433 with a midfield three of Hughes, Hendrick and Thorne is our best... wait a minute, Thorne will never be fit, Hendrick is gone and Hughes is off this January window or close season. Oh happy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 5 hours ago, Anon said: We know he's had injury issues, but let's not pretend the latest one is anything to do with his previous problems or being susceptible to injury in general. It was an absolutely shocking challenge that would've snapped anyone unfortunate enough to be in the crosshairs. And the ref waved play-on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 8 minutes ago, eddie said: And the ref waved play-on. Should have been a penalty too. Not that I or any of us would have been up for it. I just felt sick and wanted the game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 34 minutes ago, cannable said: He was hindered offensively by the fact teams started man marking him and there was little movement ahead of him. Of Championship midfielders with 23 or more appearances; only three win the ball (tackles and interceptions) more every 90 minutes than Thorne. Only two block more shots every 90 minutes and only three make more clearances per 90. No other Championship midfielder makes more passes per game than Thorne. Only three championship midfielders make more accurate long passes than Thorne, though all three have a substantially lower long pass accuracy. Only one player actually has a higher long pass accuracy than Thorne. If it wasn't for the Ipswich game he would have had the highest rating on WhoScored out of every other centre-mid in the division to feature over 23 times. A peak Thorne with freedom to run the show and movement ahead of him is, in my opinion, England quality. I agree, although after his last injury there was a marked tendency to try too hard too soon. He made a fair few errors but because he is so B good he fought and usually got the ball back. Also When he came back last time he wasn't at full power. There was something missing in his first half yard. We rushed it although I accept that had nothing to do with the subsequent injury. please let's have him back but let's bed him in sensibly and use Jamie Hansons enthusiasm and power to blunt the oposition for the first 60 minutes ... Where is young Jamie anyway ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 12 minutes ago, Gypsy Ram said: A 433 with a midfield three of Hughes, Hendrick and Thorne is our best... wait a minute, Thorne will never be fit, Hendrick is gone and Hughes is off this January window or close season. Oh happy days. Opinions of course, I still believe our best 3 is George, Hughes and Bryson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Thorne Hughes Johnson/Butterfield that 3 would be quality together IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Thorne Hughes Johnson/Butterfield that 3 would be quality together IMO. To me Johnson isn't good enough on the ball to play as one of the two advanced players, particularly not on a regular basis. For me Johnson should be seen as backup and predominantly back-up to Thorne. For me, ideally the midfield would be Thorne, Hughes and Butterfield with Bryson as first back-up for Hughes and Butterfield, usually replacing one of them after 60-70mins to harry a tiring opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 As you can probably tell by my profile picture I'm a massive Thorne fan, and I don't think it can be emphasised enough how much we're missing him as a team. TBH I'd like to see our win rate vita Thorne vs without as I suspect it's quite massively better with him in the team. It's not just his vision but also his leadership that he brings to the team, he inspires confidence and I really hope whoever the new manager is makes him the captain. Not bringing in backup to him over the last few transfer windows has been a huge part of our downfall, once he's back he should provide a shield to our back four and allow the rest of our team to push on, which should hopefully result in an upturn in form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Paul71 said: Should have been a penalty too. Not that I or any of us would have been up for it. I just felt sick and wanted the game over. Exactly. I was awful the whole rest of the day, I'd brought the ginger lady along and she was gutted to. It was horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Exactly. I was awful the whole rest of the day, I'd brought the ginger lady along and she was gutted to. It was horrible. Never heard a ground just go as dead as quickly as that. I could have cried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Paul71 said: Agree, we would be at least 19th as Pearson decides to play him on the wing. Seriously I agree, gives confidence to both the attacking midfielders and the defence. When people say he didn't play well last season, I really wish you could just have a George cam and watch him throughout a game, he is superb and because of the role it often goes unnoticed. 100% agree so much he does is stuff that doesn't get noticed. He's got a great 'engine' and his positional sense is brilliant. Great tackler too. I think a lot only think he's had a good game if he plays a number of defence splitting passes etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgford Ram Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 It is weird to think that if he wasn't 'injury prone' he'd probably never ended up at Derby and would be a Premier League and England regular now. The midfield of Hughes, Thorne and Hendrick, that took Brighton apart in the SF of the PO could have been the future for 10 years if we had beaten QPR at Wembley. It was that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Back on grass - so he says on instagram. That would be turf, not the illegal drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ramsley Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, David said: Should we tell him that's not grass in the picture Joke by the way... I reckon we are half a team without George... Great to see him on his way back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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