Sexydadbod Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: Exactly..if Vydra is worth 8 Russell must be worth 6.... Can I have some of what you're having please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Take the money and run he's no more than an average championship winger imo and will never be good enough as a starting winger to get us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, McLovin said: Can I have some of what you're having please. Perhaps I am one of the few slightly underwhelmed by the signing of Vydra.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Come on guys he's definitely worth at least 5-6 mil *wink wink* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Just now, Jimbo Ram said: Perhaps I am one of the few slightly underwhelmed by the signing of Vydra.... Maybe give him a chance rather than judging a player before they have even played for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 14 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Exactly..if Vydra is worth 8 Russell must be worth 6.... Well at least £5 million in today's money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, McLovin said: Maybe give him a chance rather than judging a player before they have even played for us? I will. Like every Rams signing they will get 100% support from me. But surely a forum like this is where you discuss a signing. Do we have to say that every signing we make is great? It works both ways. I remember being on holiday in Cornwall in the sunshine on deadline day when my mate texted me to say we had signed Bradders. I was chuffed to bits and thought we had got a bargain. Hasn't quite worked out that way. I think Vydra is a gamble and 8 million is an inflated price. Time will tell if it is a good signing. We all hope it is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool As Custard Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Russell is worth no more than £4m even in today's inflated market. Works hard but no consistency or end product. I'd take £3m if it was on offer right now as he doesn't fit the sort of wide player NP is looking for. I'd also take 5m for Ince and get in pair of proper wingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Cool As Custard said: Russell is worth no more than £4m even in today's inflated market. Works hard but no consistency or end product. I'd take £3m if it was on offer right now as he doesn't fit the sort of wide player NP is looking for. I'd also take 5m for Ince and get in pair of proper wingers Play Ince in his right position and he could thrive..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Play Ince in his right position and he could thrive..... Blackpool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 He can go for me, not played well in a long time and even then he'd still not turn up some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool As Custard Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Play Ince in his right position and he could thrive..... Which is his right position? He's played RW, LW and #10 this season - he hasn't thrived in any of them! Like Russell too inconsistent and an even worse attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I would part shop both him and Bird for Kodger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, Abu Derby said: I would part shop Blackman and Bird for Kodger. Fixed. This would be good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Tom Ince and his best postion there's a topic for debate imo the guy is all fart and no poo. always looks like he's about to do something, gets in good positions, takes a nice touch but the end product more often than not isn't there. maybe Pearson can coax something more out of him in the coming weeks/months but Id swap him in a heartbeat for some genuine width and someone who knows how to play as a conventional wide man. ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Maybe throw Pearce in there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Maybe throw Pearce in there too. and have no CBs other than Keogh, Shackell and an unhappy Rawson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Animal is a Ram said: and have no CBs other than Keogh, Shackell and an unhappy Rawson? Who said Rawson unhappy? Paper talks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Derbados said: I like Johnny, i really do but he just isnt a top 6 player, never will be. All endeavor and zero end product, terrible decision maker at times. Just a good, middle of the road Championship player and would be a good signing for Bristol Why has he played in a Derby team that's made the play-off's twice in the last three years then? People get massively hung up on players being top 6 or mid-table quality, when in reality you only need a few standout players and a manager with a cohesive system to be successful in the championship. The whole 'he's got no end product' argument is also pointless. Yeah, he hasn't got a great end product, that's why he's playing in the Championship! We're a championship team, we're going to struggle to find a winger with a regular end product. Theres probably 10 players at most in this league you could argue have consistent end product, if that. So many teams have gone up with players you wouldn't consider 'top 6 quality'. Most of Bournemouth's team wasn't "top 6 quality", teams like Norwich and Southampton went up with players they'd bought while they were in League One who had nowhere near the pedigree of Russell. I understand why people want to try something different after a 3/4 seasons of the same players not getting us up, but don't expect dramatic results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpleram Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 So it's okay to be mediocre cos that's where we are, a mediocre league? Surely you want players to shine at what ever level we are at. A great player in League 1 might struggle in the Championship, Russells struggling in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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